Electronic Rust Protection (Couplertec) - Does it work?

[Jim]

Who is this person and what has he done with BigMuz?

[BundyBeej]

[BigMuz]

I believe in the right of reply on the internet and I support the notion that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

[BigMuz]

Hth.

[Uncle]

So you state misinformation has been given but you provide no real information to back up any of your claims.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flys like a duck then it's a good chance it's not a tiger.
Show me some solid credible everdence not just "call us and find out" all that tells me is you are not prepared to back up your claims on a public forum.

By the way how are you for bridges? I've got a couple that I need to move.

Hi guys we have noticed that there is a lot of miss-information being contributed to this forum and we would like to help
with any concerns/questions.Below is a short description aimed at the two most common misunderstandings we have found on forum threads.

WHAT CAN BE PROTECTED?
CouplerTec’s Patented ‘Capacitive Coupling Technology’ is an Electronic corrosion process that can be used on any mobile or
fixed above ground (non-submerged) application such as; motor vehicles (cars, trucks buses), heavy machinery/equipment
(tractors, forklifts, graders. loaders, dozers, excavators and cranes etc), towers, generators and sheds. Almost any above
ground metal structure can be protected using CouplerTec’s Patented Capacitive Coupling Technology.

THE COUPLERTEC DIFFERENCE!
CouplerTec’s Patented Capacitive Coupling Technology is demonstrably different from more traditional forms of electronic
corrosion control because it was specifically designed from the outset to operate in an open air environment, unlike Impressed
Current Cathodic Protection (ICCP) which requires a relatively abundant conductive medium (moist soil or water) completely
surrounding the metal object being protected.

Please feel free to contact us on free call 1800 667 878 for any more information or If you have any further questions.

[Jim]

I can get two identical cars, dip them off a boat ramp, fit one with the couplertech kit and park both in my old man's paddock with a couple of solar cell chargers, then come back and check them in 6 months time. Supply me with one kit for testing and I'll document every part of the process, and will give you full rights to use it for promotional stuff.

Until this happens, no-one around here will take your word for your product.

[Billzilla]

I believe in the right of reply on the internet and I support the notion that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness while I walk naked to Perth.

You've changed man.

[JESUS CHRIST]

Out of interest, has CouplerTec logged in since his initial post hours ago?

Just wondering if he is dodging the queries or has not logged back on?

[Shonky]

Out of interest, has CouplerTec logged in since his initial post hours ago?

Just wondering if he is dodging the queries or has not logged back on?

Anyone can look at a profile: http://performanceforums.com/forums/...546-CouplerTec

[Benonymous]

I've had a skim over the circuit and through the patent. Basically, the Coupler Tec generates a pulse width modulated signal on an AC waveform. Like a higher frequency signal as a harmonic on a lower base frequency. This signal which is about 5-7 volts peak to peak, gets upconverted to about 400V with a transformer near the end of the circuit. The resultant high voltage, low current signal is finally coupled to a set of metal pads via a series LC circuit. The pads are insulated from the metal of the car chassis in some way, probably by having some sort of polymer adhesive on them for mounting purposes. Subsequently, the 400V PWM signal is capacitavely coupled to the car chassis. Ultimately, this device will make the car chassis into a kind of antenna which is insulated from any actual ground reference. Coupling the signal in this way will be inefficient and a fair amount of energy will be lost in the series LC circuit.

As we now know what is being attempted here, using a high voltage PWM signal to mitigate corrosion in a steel structure, we can google the fuck out of the internets looking for information on said effect.

There appears to be no such effect.

If it was a real effect, then no electricity transmission equipment would ever need to be treated for corrosion, you could build components out of carbon steel! Why then, are transmission components hot dip galvanised and made from stainless?? Because if they weren't, they'd corrode just like any other exposed metal and become fucked in short order.

Coupler Tec, I await your rebuttal and published, peer reviewed scientific evidence......

*crickets*

[Nero]

damn those crickets!.....ohh segway!...first test started today!

[Tripper]

If it was a real effect, then no electricity transmission equipment would ever need to be treated for corrosion, you could build components out of carbon steel! Why then, are transmission components hot dip galvanised and made from stainless?? Because if they weren't, they'd corrode just like any other exposed metal and become fucked in short order.

Coupler Tec, I await your rebuttal and published, peer reviewed scientific evidence......

*crickets*

He got his blue pills mixed up, instead of taking a boner pill he took one that kept him in the matrix

ps freemasons own all the galvanizers, and we all know that freemasons run this world, so what the free masons say go

[Uncle]

So its safe to say it's a steaming pile of rust.

[Benonymous]

Yeh, pretty much.

I've had a read of the Coupler Tec website and, if I read it correctly, the coupler tec device makes your car into a capacitor with the negative plate formed by the steel chassis, the dielectric as the paint and the positive plate as the air around the car with positively charged oxygen atoms. Supposedly, the simple fact of the chassis being a non-ground referenced cathode makes anything else the anode.

From an electrical theory standpoint, the whole thing is anachronistic. I fail to see how the chassis can be considered negatively charged, when the active part of the circuit is capacitavely coupled to it. In fact, they have the circuit connected to the chassis on both the active and ground. If this was a simple connection, it would be a short circuit and anything inside the "module" would be immaterial. However, in a clever twist, they've capacitiavely coupled the live (positive) end of the circuit so there would actually be a reactive load on it instead of a short. Brilliant! Does this have the effect of making the chassis into a negatively charged cathode in a car shaped capacitor?

That's the problem with these things, it takes a reverse engineering effort to disprove the claims made for it and they've made it just complicated enough so that you have to break it down to basic electrical theory. Chucking some AC in always complicates matters.

Good excerise though, keeps the brain agile.

I'll have to ponder this with a bit less Chardonnay on board.....

[Billzilla]

Yeh, pretty much.

I've had a read of the Coupler Tec website and, if I read it correctly, the coupler tec device makes your car into a capacitor with the negative plate formed by the steel chassis, the dielectric as the paint and the positive plate as the air around the car with positively charged oxygen atoms. Supposedly, the simple fact of the chassis being a non-ground referenced cathode makes anything else the anode.

From an electrical theory standpoint, the whole thing is anachronistic. I fail to see how the chassis can be considered negatively charged, when the active part of the circuit is capacitavely coupled to it. In fact, they have the circuit connected to the chassis on both the active and ground. If this was a simple connection, it would be a short circuit and anything inside the "module" would be immaterial. However, in a clever twist, they've capacitiavely coupled the live (positive) end of the circuit so there would actually be a reactive load on it instead of a short. Brilliant! Does this have the effect of making the chassis into a negatively charged cathode in a car shaped capacitor?

That's the problem with these things, it takes a reverse engineering effort to disprove the claims made for it and they've made it just complicated enough so that you have to break it down to basic electrical theory. Chucking some AC in always complicates matters.

Good excerise though, keeps the brain agile.

I'll have to ponder this with a bit less Chardonnay on board.....

The Russians built a magic box like that to help protect aircraft against being detected on radar. The box would generate a plasma field around the skin of the aeroplane and that would soak up any radar pulses so there'd be no return and hence no target.
So my theory is that instead of running this Coupler Tec box on 12 volts you run it on 240 volts and make your car invisible to police radar.
(I really don't need italics for that, do I?)