I want an old prius battery

[Rdyno]

Yes, I worded that correctly. 100% depth of discharge means the battery is totally flat (and most batteries will suffer some sort of damage if they are totally flattened.)
If you take more than 50% of the energy out of a fully charged lead battery, you are causing permanent damage to it (sulfation) and it's performance and life will be reduced (to much less than 300 cycles). This is why Century brand deep cycle batteries only come with 6 months warranty, whereas their regular car batteries come with 12, 24, or 36 month warranties. They know people will drain their deep cycle batteries dead flat and fuck them in short order.

Lithium cells are better, they can be run 70 or 80% flat without suffering undue damage. In other words you can get more of their rated capacity out. Of course they still don't last forever and performance does gradually decrease. The remaining capacity on the lithium cells that have been flattened 80% 3000 times (or 70% 5000 times), will be approx. 90% of the original or nominal capacity.

What sort of chargers and undervolt protection can you get for these said lithium batteries and at what cost also what is the price comparison of the actual batteries them self's?

[GSRman]

Maybe you could find an old diesel electric train?

[rollin7]

Maybe you could find an old diesel electric train?

how would that compare to a prius, which i could also afford?

[mondo2000]

Small solar charger with undervoltage protection: http://ev-power.com.au/webstore/inde...troller-1.html

There are also lithium batteries on that site for reference, but I think their prices are out of date. I haven't looked into solar chargers but the alternative energy backyarders are pretty self reliant and probably have a few open source projects going.

[GSRman]

how would that compare to a prius, which i could also afford?

Both have a self-start function, a Prius will usually only start while on the hoist with no oil in it, as a D-E train will annoy your neighbours and make their and make their laundry stink while you aren't even home.

[Bozz]

Yes, I worded that correctly. 100% depth of discharge means the battery is totally flat (and most batteries will suffer some sort of damage if they are totally flattened.)
If you take more than 50% of the energy out of a fully charged lead battery, you are causing permanent damage to it (sulfation) and it's performance and life will be reduced (to much less than 300 cycles). This is why Century brand deep cycle batteries only come with 6 months warranty, whereas their regular car batteries come with 12, 24, or 36 month warranties. They know people will drain their deep cycle batteries dead flat and fuck them in short order.

Lithium cells are better, they can be run 70 or 80% flat without suffering undue damage. In other words you can get more of their rated capacity out. Of course they still don't last forever and performance does gradually decrease. The remaining capacity on the lithium cells that have been flattened 80% 3000 times (or 70% 5000 times), will be approx. 90% of the original or nominal capacity.

Yep you're right, I was confusing depth of discharge with state of charge, thats why it didn't make sense to me.

Never mind, carry on

[cracka]

Buy a generator ffs.

[dave_vic_ozz]

Centre Rd wreckers in Springvale have 2 Prius . Batteries removed for safety but give them a call.

http://www.imlachs.com.au/WebPage/WebPage.asp?Ref=2788

[MRMOPARMAN]

Both have a self-start function, a Prius will usually only start while on the hoist with no oil in it, as a D-E train will annoy your neighbours and make their and make their laundry stink while you aren't even home.

usually people turn the key off before dropping the oil on pretty much all machinery in existance (that uses keys)

[Rdyno]

Both have a self-start function, a Prius will usually only start while on the hoist with no oil in it, as a D-E train will annoy your neighbours and make their and make their laundry stink while you aren't even home.

That fucker was overfueling hard at the start.

I think the egt sensors might have been put off by the fucking horrendous cold around the train.

[stumbles]

If you still want a prius battery I can ask a mate who runs a taxi servicing business and majority are prius.

[Dark Orange]

If you still want a prius battery I can ask a mate who runs a taxi servicing business and majority are prius.

Yeah, if they have an old one that has at least half capacity left, that'd be great

[BigMuz]

That fucker was overfueling hard at the start.

No it wasn't.

I think the egt sensors might have been put off by the fucking horrendous cold around the train.

They don't have egt sensors.

[Stix Zadinia]

[Rdyno]

No it wasn't.



They don't have egt sensors.

And you know this how most big engines use egt sensors I dont know if this trian uses them but it is common these days.