All drink drivers to get alcohol interlock devices in Vic - plan

[chartreusehj]

ill support this when a viable testing/interlock method for drug driving is also implemented in all vehicles where a drug driving offence has occurred.

I would support the interlock in ALL cases where the offender has the option of licence suspension/cancellation OR the interlock.

As a law talkin' guy once said to me a very fucking long time ago "you wouldve been better off bashing someone, i could get you out of that"

[TTerror]

ill support this when a viable testing method for drug driving is also implemented in all vehicles.

I would support the interlock in ALL cases where the offender has the option of licence suspension/cancellation OR the interlock.

As a law talkin' guy once said to me a very fucking long time ago "you wouldve been better off bashing someone, i could get you out of that"

SO much truth here...

[oioioioioi]

Connect a 12ft coil of tubing to the air inlet, blow into the other end, unit takes a sample of the clean alcohol free air in the tube before your alcohol laden breath hits the sensor. Wow, that was hard to circumvent...

[80DGY]

As a reformed drink driver (3 times in 5 years, latest one at .168) I think it's a fucking good idea, it certainly worked for me.

Getting a mate/barmaid to blow into it to start the car doesn't work as well as you'd think as (as someone mentioned), they go off randomly whilst you're driving. If you have a sober mate in the car, why the fuck isn't he driving?

As for getting pinched driving a car without one, the fine is ~$3k from memory (and bum factory in my case as I was on probation) so if you need to borrow or hire a car, too fucking bad, get someone else to drive.

GreatWallGT500, your mate is breaking the law by using it whilst the vehicle in motion, let him know he'll have fun with the fines if they catch him using it. However, the Drager unit looks a lot like a CB handset (which is legal AFAIK) or so I heard

They have also put the cost of the bimonthly 'service' up to $250 as well. Mine comes out in two weeks and it'll cost me $ 360 to remove it.

Bottom line is, plan ahead, if you're going to drink at all, get someone else to drive or catch a cab. If it means you'll miss out on beeries after work or something at the pub, get over it, you won't die.

I (as some might remember from my thread about them in QLD) was deadset fucking against it and fucking shitty about the cost etc, now that I've had it in my car, I think it's an extremely effective deterrent against DUI.

/soapbox

[80DGY]

Connect a 12ft coil of tubing to the air inlet, blow into the other end, unit takes a sample of the clean alcohol free air in the tube before your alcohol laden breath hits the sensor. Wow, that was hard to circumvent...

lol, except with a Drager unit you're required to suck back at the end of the sample

afaik the Guardian unit requires you to hum into it as well (I avoided that unit for this reason)

I'm glad they never though of that and you worked out how to get around their technology

ill support this when a viable testing/interlock method for drug driving is also implemented in all vehicles where a drug driving offence has occurred.

I would support the interlock in ALL cases where the offender has the option of licence suspension/cancellation OR the interlock.

The drug one can't be far off and you do have a choice (in QLD at least), when your initial suspension finishes and you have to fit the interlock, you can opt to forfeit your licence for another 24 months instead of copping the machine

[EnFlaMEd]

I just escaped the mandatory interlock for high bracket offenders here but a work mate of mine got done not long after and had to have it installed when he got his license back. Because he is heavy drinker he ended up being on the interlock for 24months because he regularly blew over trying to start his car before leaving for work. Here if you blow over 0.02 more than 3 times in a 3 month period (dont quote me on that but its along those lines) you get the interlock extended for a further 3 months. Eventually my mate got the message and he is now pretty pro at knowing how much he can drink and how long he was to wait before he can drive legally. If anything the interlock device has stopped him drinking so much at night and taught him a pretty massive lesson about how fucked up it is not having a full license for 3 years because you dont know your limits. For that I can see it can be a good thing for some people. I think the thing is fucked personally but maybe not a bad idea for high range or repeat offenders.

[BigMuz]

What are the stats for drug driving though? It's a no brainer vs drink driving for reasons that bodgy has eloquently stated. I had to start a mates car at powercruise cause he wasn't sure he would be under. The fact that you have to think about your ability to legally drive every day is a huge thing.

[BigMuz]

Humming in to the thing made me feel like i was about to cop a load of jizz to the face though.

[oioioioioi]

lol, except with a Drager unit you're required to suck back at the end of the sample

I'm glad they never though of that and you worked out how to get around their technology

Damn, I forgot the theoretical length of hose I used had a check valve in it...

[MexicanBatman]

I heard air in a can (keyboard duster) used to work on some of the units...

[Cal]

Meh I reckon everyone should be entitled to one error of judgement without having to spend thousands having one of these stupid fucking things fitted to their car. When I say error of judgement I mean 0.05 - 0.10. That's how it works in Queensland.

[F3ARED]

What boggles my mind is you cross up sideways/chirp your wheels and your car is impounded, but get shit faced blind behind the wheel, get caught AND YOU DONT LOSE YOUR CAR. Flip the herald sun open today and theres a massive article on hooning and only a small one on drink drivers.

I wonder which has been involved in more fatal accidents - hooning or drink driving.

[<---cop]

Humming in to the thing made me feel like i was about to cop a load of jizz to the face though.

Deja vu?

[SFort]

Why would anyone blow into a drunk person's interlock and enable them to drive? That deserves a bigger penalty than anything IMO, just stupid.

I'm probably going to cop one of these things in a couple of months. As much as it will blow, I reckon it'll be a good lesson. Funny thing is, the deliberate loss of traction charge (1st gear left turn, small skid from lights) made up the vast majority of the time/fine, while blowing .08 was fuck all. I'm not complaining at all, it was dumb on both counts, but had they tried to push the not in proper control of a vehicle charge they tried on, it would have been over 2 years and less than a 1/4 of it would have been for the drink driving part. Confusing.

[tim510]

The maintenance on the lockout devices is robbery. A neighbour has one, and fair cop he was done for DD. He admits it , but the bloody thing just stops working so sparatically, and required random $60 services. It costs the poor bastard a fortune. Anyone who is half handy with car auto-elecs could bypass it pretty easily me thinks.