All drink drivers to get alcohol interlock devices in Vic - plan

[80DGY]

its not a 'service'

if it fails at any time, its your coin

good work

well, being that I have one, I'd say I'm relatively qualified to comment

I'm not quite sure what people mean they go 'wrong' and you get charged for it. I don't know if the attitude test comes into it but the two times mine's fucked up (in 12 months) it hasn't cost me a cent.

and it is a 'service' btw, they call it that or a download or a recalibration. It is scheduled and if you miss it, it locks out ($$)

[KDog]

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[KDog]

How the fuck could these things possibly cost more than a Haltech PS1000 fitted? What a load of shit!

Because a haltech is an uncalibrated piece of shit electronics built with the cheapest components, and designed/programmed by a first year engineering drop out.
These devices are required to have a high calibration under many different condition and detect false readings. They are designed by qualified engineers and scientists who have been doing the R&D on the product for many years.

[Billzilla]

Because a haltech is an uncalibrated piece of shit electronics built with the cheapest components, and designed/programmed by a first year engineering drop out.
These devices are required to have a high calibration under many different condition and detect false readings. They are designed by qualified engineers and scientists who have been doing the R&D on the product for many years.

So you can't get a mate (who you are waiting for) to blow into it to get the car started and then when it asks for another reading when you're down the road, you just put the nozzle on the end of a fuel funnel and hold it out the wind to get the wind to blow down the tube for you?
Seems unfair.

[KDog]

Yeah poor choice of words. Apologies to Haltech. POS wasn't the correct term. Simple is what I wanted. There's nothing complex about engine management. They are 100% fit for purpose and I would buy one no worries.

It wouldn't if I designed the thing. I don't know what their designers are like though, but I assume they are competent and have thought of that. But is has been 5 years since I did instrumentation design sop "standards" might have changed.

[Deus Ex]

Sometimes PF surprises me, and not in a good way. You guys rant that chirping the tyres lands you in more trouble than a drink driver. Then when drink driving regulations are put in place you say THAT is too much also.

While i agree that if you get unlucky and blow .06 you shouldn't have to go through this whole endeavor, the must be a line. Also, the way some of you go on like its your god given right to have 4 beers then drive is pretty shameful. Sure, if you are a big fat cunt, you can drink 4 beers and be much better off than the skinny hipster who has 2 and is off his rocker. How do you police this? Shall we have the RBT weigh you, breathalise you and then do a body fat % check?

If I'm driving, i have 1 beer. Max. If you want more, dont fucking drive. Your night/weekend will not be ruined because you had a Sprite and not a beer FFS.

[Cal]

0 competition + supply contract with gummbyment, Id say.

Sounds like a good business opportunity for someone, so long as the gummbyment doesnt restrict supply to one manufacturer....which they probably will.

One of my best mate's is the only central Brisbane installer. Works for him.

[E30is]

these should be installed on all vehicles.........who will cover the cost for it? most likely us but the reduced policing costs could be used for it

i have a portable Breath analyser that i use if i have a had a few. I only wish they were more accurate

[Rorz de Puniet]

Also, the way some of you go on like its your god given right to have 4 beers then drive is pretty shameful.

Whoa, wait up a second there. This isn't my right?? Has god gone and withdrawn it or something? That cunt... he's going to be on the receiving end of an angry phone call.

[Rorz de Puniet]

Also, I think most people want a reduction in nanny state bullshit in regard to hoon laws rather than increasing it in other areas such a drink driving to bring it all into line...

[Tripper]

Sometimes PF surprises me, and not in a good way. You guys rant that chirping the tyres lands you in more trouble than a drink driver. Then when drink driving regulations are put in place you say THAT is too much also.

While i agree that if you get unlucky and blow .06 you shouldn't have to go through this whole endeavor, the must be a line. Also, the way some of you go on like its your god given right to have 4 beers then drive is pretty shameful. Sure, if you are a big fat cunt, you can drink 4 beers and be much better off than the skinny hipster who has 2 and is off his rocker. How do you police this? Shall we have the RBT weigh you, breathalise you and then do a body fat % check?

If I'm driving, i have 1 beer. Max. If you want more, dont fucking drive. Your night/weekend will not be ruined because you had a Sprite and not a beer FFS.

the thing is the punishment needs to suit the crime, as far as the law is concerned spinning your wheels taking off from a set of lights in your mates manual car in the wet, is the same as spinning your tyres to they pop. Both of them could get your car confiscated under the so called hoon laws.

If they bring in this rule people that get done for 0.05 yes thats still over the legal limit will be required to get one of these fitted much the same as a person who blows 0.20

[BundyBeej]

So what if it was decided that these would be fitted to all vehicles and the national limit be reduced to 0.01? Would that be okay too?

For P platers and professional drivers (truckies, cabbies etc) its 0.00....

Fact of the matter is, the BAC limit should be 0.00 end of story. Having a 0.05 limit baits/tempts people into having a drink or two when the repercussions if you blow slightly over can completely destroy your livelihood.

Yep. This just makes sense. With the limit around the 'a couple of beers' mark, it's just asking for trouble. Especially when everyone is different - it's a total grey area when it comes to # of drinks = xyz BAC.

The only time I remotely drink then drive is a couple of beers with a work lunch, then it's 3 hours dry before I'm driving. If i'm having a lunch with some good blokes and I know it's going to be a good/long lunch, I won't even drive to work that day.

Obviously you have never had one fitted to your car before. Live with it for 1 month and I guarantee your opinion will rapidly change.

Fair call. The request for specimen whilst on the move would be a pain in the arse. If it was a case of get in, key in to ACC, blow in device, then start up and off you go, and the machine didn't fuck up, then I don't see how one small extra step would be such a big deal.

[Mr Ed]

Because a haltech is an uncalibrated piece of shit electronics built with the cheapest components, and designed/programmed by a first year engineering drop out.
These devices are required to have a high calibration under many different condition and detect false readings. They are designed by qualified engineers and scientists who have been doing the R&D on the product for many years.

My reference to Haltech was mainly because they are still a relatively small manufacturer. I have no idea about the complexity of the two products.

My little brother is a 2nd year engineering student at UQ. He told my little sister to get her brakes aligned a few months ago. Those haltech blokes must have dropped out of MIT or something. :p

[tremolo]

One of my best mate's is the only central Brisbane installer. Works for him.

I assume the bloke with the DTM Pantera & all the other baller toys?

[Mr Purple]

Having once blown 0.04 after half a glass of wine, I'm all for a bit more tolerance - 0.05 - 0.1 should get you suspended, but only the high range or repeat offenders should realistically have a bit more tolerance.

In my experience the true hardcore alcoholics won't give a fuck anyway.