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    Originally posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    I wonder how much of it is women wanting a soft roader because little Johnny's mother in play group has one?
    This is the primary factor IMHO. Stupid Cayenne driving mother at my son's school reckons her truck thing looks better than a 911...
    VT, VH & C43

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      I had the same discussion with a knobhead from work here.....he was complaining about cost for gerlytrucks and yet was looking at the subaru XV.
      I pointed out that the Impreza was a good 10k cheaper and he looked at me like I was from another planet....it's the same car fucktard!
      now with extra gearbox'y goodness

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        It's pretty simple really. Consumer choice. Society has changed in general in the last 10-15yrs.

        McDonald's had the same menu for over 50yrs until the 80's or so when they introduced the taste sensation that is the Fillet-o-Fish followed by the McChicken in the 90's. Since 2000 the menu has expanded dramatically. Why would you go to maccas and get a cheeseburger when you can get the new fuck off mcangus mcdouble deluxe extra bacon even if it is a few extra bucks? (putting aside the fact you only have it when your pissed at 3am).

        How many brands of beer where stocked at your local bottleo 10-15 years ago?

        As consumers today we are fairly spoilt for choice in most markets something which a company whose founder most famously quoted 'they can have any colour they like as long as its black' has had to deal with.
        Various Japanese 2 doors.

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          Originally posted by Cambo351 View Post
          You mean like this:





          They got the very last AU's just right. My old TE50 btw. Bought her new I did...
          You love depreciation.. First the woeful falcon and now the jag..

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            Originally posted by Rona View Post
            Might use less fuel but at 25-30c/L dearer for fuel they are hardly cheaper to run. Prado, Pathfinder etc are a good $60-70k car to by the time you drive away which is a good $20k on a Falcon/Commode. $20-30k buys a lot of petrol last time I checked.

            Our XR6 Ts average sub 10L/100km on the freeway and use around 14l/100km around town they are hardly expensive to run.
            What The..........



            In Perth according to the Fuel watch site:

            ULP 129.4
            PULP 140.4
            Diesel 135.9

            My Amarok for example average's around 7.8 to 8.3 over the last 10'000kms, I get 1050kms per tank.

            I ran many a Falcon Wagon company car in the past, and they came nowhere near close to that.
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            2013 Opel Insignia OPC
            2013 Kia Rio
            2018 LDV T60

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              Originally posted by Turbokid View Post
              It's pretty simple really. Consumer choice. Society has changed in general in the last 10-15yrs.

              McDonald's had the same menu for over 50yrs until the 80's or so when they introduced the taste sensation that is the Fillet-o-Fish followed by the McChicken in the 90's. Since 2000 the menu has expanded dramatically. Why would you go to maccas and get a cheeseburger when you can get the new fuck off mcangus mcdouble deluxe extra bacon even if it is a few extra bucks? (putting aside the fact you only have it when your pissed at 3am).

              How many brands of beer where stocked at your local bottleo 10-15 years ago?

              As consumers today we are fairly spoilt for choice in most markets something which a company whose founder most famously quoted 'they can have any colour they like as long as its black' has had to deal with.
              ^ This.

              Society is changing, right or wrong its changing
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              2013 Opel Insignia OPC
              2013 Kia Rio
              2018 LDV T60

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                Originally posted by GTREA View Post
                In Perth according to the Fuel watch site:

                ULP 129.4
                PULP 140.4
                Diesel 135.9

                My Amarok for example average's around 7.8 to 8.3 over the last 10'000kms, I get 1050kms per tank.

                I ran many a Falcon Wagon company car in the past, and they came nowhere near close to that.
                In Sydney, with the exception of right now (tonight?!) its normally ~ $1.17 for E10 and $1.45 for Diesel
                Parramatta Eels, 2009 Premiership rightful winners.

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                  Originally posted by MartyXF View Post
                  In Sydney, with the exception of right now (tonight?!) its normally ~ $1.17 for E10 and $1.45 for Diesel
                  Wow $1.17.....Thats hell cheap, Average price for E10

                  Mar-2013 Metro E10 140.6
                  Apr-2013 Metro E10 133.9
                  May-2013 Metro E10 130.6
                  1978 Opel Manta SR Berlinetta 1UZFE
                  2013 Opel Insignia OPC
                  2013 Kia Rio
                  2018 LDV T60

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                    to be honest i have seen $1.17 anywhere

                    at best its $1.25 or so but who buy e10 really?
                    Originally posted by boxxx

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                      Originally posted by teamtoken View Post
                      You'd have to be either mad or stupid to suggest that australians dont want large cars anymore when 4wd (or SUVs hurr durr) sales are skyrocketing.
                      A SUV is not a large car. I have driven a few lately, Subaru 3.6 something, Honda CRV and Range Rover Evoque and they are conveniant to live with, comfortable upright seating position, easy to get in and out of, good vision etc. - not a large car. No I don't want one but I want a large car less.



                      Originally posted by Cambo351 View Post
                      You mean like this:


                      They got the very last AU's just right. My old TE50 btw. Bought her new I did...
                      Sorry.

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                        Originally posted by Rona View Post
                        Bullshit, the market moved on and those who use to drive large RWD cars are now driving even larger 4wds that cost more and use even more fuel. Hell look at the sales of Dual Cab utes now compared to 10 years ago so many people using them as family cars and they still guzzle fuel down like nobodies business.
                        I know a few people who want out of the SUV/dual cab market but most "large" wagons aren't that big in the boot compared to Falcon and VT-VZ Commodore wagons, or even VB-VS commodes! So they either stay in the large SUV/dual cab with canopy market or do what I had to do and get a people mover. If I needed to tow something as well as carry the dog I would have grabbed a dual cab, will almost certainly end up in one in the next couple of years since we plan on getting another Pyr which means it's either a van or dual cab ute. Nothing else is big enough, unless I find a mint VZ wagon.

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                          Originally posted by irsa76 View Post
                          I know a few people who want out of the SUV/dual cab market but most "large" wagons aren't that big in the boot compared to Falcon and VT-VZ Commodore wagons, or even VB-VS commodes! So they either stay in the large SUV/dual cab with canopy market or do what I had to do and get a people mover. If I needed to tow something as well as carry the dog I would have grabbed a dual cab, will almost certainly end up in one in the next couple of years since we plan on getting another Pyr which means it's either a van or dual cab ute. Nothing else is big enough, unless I find a mint VZ wagon.
                          Horsefloat for the Pyr?
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                            Originally posted by TonyJZX View Post
                            to be honest i have seen $1.17 anywhere

                            at best its $1.25 or so but who buy e10 really?
                            Last two times I filled up the 180l prado it was under $1.20 then 4 c discount
                            Parramatta Eels, 2009 Premiership rightful winners.

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                              Originally posted by Jim View Post
                              Fuck you're a dunce sometimes.
                              If you sift through the abuse of people too stupid to defend themselves, the logic is relevant.
                              Gerlytruk buyers buy them because they're large; that's the prime requirement. They still want a big-thing that uses less juice though.
                              The reality is that a new Corolla is damned-close to as roomy as an XF; but uses 2/3 the fuel around town & prolly half on the highway. Plus the Corolla you buy for about the $25k an XF Ghia was worth in '86 is as well-equipped & safer too.
                              Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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                                Originally posted by Forg View Post
                                If you sift through the abuse of people too stupid to defend themselves, the logic is relevant.
                                Gerlytruk buyers buy them because they're large; that's the prime requirement. They still want a big-thing that uses less juice though.
                                The reality is that a new Corolla is damned-close to as roomy as an XF;
                                A VL perhaps, but not an XF. (Corolla sedan)

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