Aldi's motor bike stuff

[Karnage]

Not sure if you know or not, But most of the quality brand motorcycle gear isn't made in China. You can't say that hand made/examined/measured/finished product with stringent QC program is the same as an "out of injection mould into the box" chinese product.

You are correct everyone should make up their own mind.

[Billzilla]

What do the GP riders wear and why?

[smellytofu]

Lightweight and expensive stuff because they go fast? whereas for the regular folks go how fast and win how many Traffic Light GP?

If it suits your needs and you need them, go buy it. If not, don't bag out people who do because for all you know, they could be just using it to go ride to the local shops in 50kmh zones.

[Tripper]

What do the GP riders wear and why?

Not GP but F1

[Karnage]

Lightweight and expensive stuff because they go fast? whereas for the regular folks go how fast and win how many Traffic Light GP?

If it suits your needs and you need them, go buy it. If not, don't bag out people who do because for all you know, they could be just using it to go ride to the local shops in 50kmh zones.

I don't think any one has been bagged out for their choice of gear in the thread?

I'm pretty sure the outcome is the same if you get hit by a car while travelling at 50km/h on the way to the shops or if you get hit by a car while travelling at 50km/h on the way to the racetrack. The quality of the gear might make a difference though.

How come no-one ever argues that there is no difference between Chinese cheap shit tyres or brake pads Vs name brand, but when it comes to safety gear they do?

If someone decides to ride around in a only G banger, then good for them. If someone makes the choice to wear a $50 helmet knowing that it may not afford the same protection as a quality helmet, that's fine too. If someone puts on a $50 helmet based on the understanding that it will afford the same protection as a quality helmet and the only difference is the brand and price, then I think there is a problem.

[piss98]

I'd go as far to say you almost need MORE and BETTER protection on the road (to a degree) as on a race track if you come off generally speaking you only hit the ground although obviously at high speed. COmpare that to coming off at 50kmh and putting your head in to a gutter/light post/car (or as someone on here did, in to a tow ball at 50kmh/r) - in those instances I'd much rather have the best helmet possible than the cheapest that meets the standards. Sure all these helmets meet the minimum standard but I'd prefer the best possible performance that meets and exceeds the standards when it comes to stopping my brains being splattered about.

[Uncle]

What brand of helmet was Corey wearing when he needed his jaw wired for 12 months?

That's going back a bit for my little brain but I am fairly sure it was an AXO helmet. But it was also a motorcross helmet.
The side of the bike landed on his head with the footpeg giving his jaw a touch up while the helmet snapped in 2.

I've it the ground from a fair height with an AGV helmet in and can still tell you the exact impact point. Resulted in a small crack in the helmet. Head hit the ground at 80 to 90 kph in a Shark RSR with most of my weight and it just had scratches no cracks.

[Sketchy]

There's just something about "budget" and "brain protection" in the same sentence that bothers me. Can't put my finger on it.....

[The Pupat]

I've it the ground from a fair height with an AGV helmet in and can still tell you the exact impact point. Resulted in a small crack in the helmet. Head hit the ground at 80 to 90 kph in a Shark RSR with most of my weight and it just had scratches no cracks.

Is that really a good thing though. If the helmet didn't take the impact what did?

[Shell]

What do the GP riders wear and why?

Whatever brand pays the most sponsorship? :p

[dab.of.oppo]

Is that really a good thing though. If the helmet didn't take the impact what did?

The helmet did. The stronger the outer shell the more effective the EPS liner can be.

It occurs to me that not many people know how a helmet actually works.

[James Fletcher]

I've it the ground from a fair height with an AGV helmet in and can still tell you the exact impact point. Resulted in a small crack in the helmet. Head hit the ground at 80 to 90 kph in a Shark RSR with most of my weight and it just had scratches no cracks.

AGV was the Indian Dr that ruined the Duke?!

[The Pupat]

The helmet did. The stronger the outer shell the more effective the EPS liner can be.

It occurs to me that not many people know how a helmet actually works.

Fair enough.

Just trying to point out saying safety gear is shit because it was in a failed state after an accident is a bit pointless. The entire idea is the safety gear fails to save your arse or head in this case.

[Billzilla]

Fair enough.

Just trying to point out saying safety gear is shit because it was in a failed state after an accident is a bit pointless. The entire idea is the safety gear fails to save your arse or head in this case.

Yep.
The helmet, in this case, should just be starting to fall apart at the end of the accident as it soaks up the energy of the impact.
The problem with that is you have to know exactly how large and where the impact will happen in advance.

[dab.of.oppo]

Yep.
The helmet, in this case, should just be starting to fall apart at the end of the accident as it soaks up the energy of the impact.
The problem with that is you have to know exactly how large and where the impact will happen in advance.

I disagree that it should be "falling apart" at the end. Ideally it should appear to be suffering only cosmetic damage although of course it should be discarded and replaced and this is why

The outer shell should be as rigid and strong and smooth as possible so that it doesn't catch on anything and give you neck injuries as you're sliding along. Also helps if the bike (or a car) ends up on your head. edit - It should spread the load on as greater area as possible.

The bit between the hard outer shell and your head is the bit that should do all energy absorbing (slowing down) for your head, and I agree that having this too hard could be doing more harm than good if it slows your head too quickly, but you certainly don't want to be burning the proverbial candle at both ends by having your head pushing at it from one side and the helmet closing in on the other if that makes sense.

As mentioned before also, the way it fits has to be spot on as well so that your head isn't moving around within the helmet reducing the liners effectiveness in managing the forces.

But yes it's impossible to have the perfect helmet without knowing how hard, where and how many times the helmet needs to be able to stop your brain mushing in the one accident. You have to remember that when buying a quality (expensive) helmet it's not just the manufacturing you're paying for it's all the research and development that goes into it to make it as effective as possible in as many scenarios as thinkable and not just being made to pass a few tests for a standard. Just because they all pass the minimum standard does not mean that they will all protect you equally.

edit - The reason it should be thrown away even if it looks OK is because the liner has been compressed. If you drop a quality helmet with nothing in it from less than 1.5 m it should still be OK to continue using.