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    #16
    Originally posted by sssgtr View Post
    As stupid as this may come across, I have vowed never to buy anything from ford. There are some manufacturers that I just cannot bear to part with my hard earned for....ford being one of them.

    That being said, yes, the st fiesta does seem pretty good on paper.
    Not stupid. My experiences with Ford dealers have been the worst of any make I've owned.

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      #17
      Originally posted by DuaneDibbley View Post
      Not stupid. My experiences with Ford dealers have been the worst of any make I've owned.
      Yeah.....that's what I have been told too.

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        #18
        Originally posted by DuaneDibbley View Post
        Not stupid. My experiences with Ford dealers have been the worst of any make I've owned.
        Thats nothing to do with Ford as such.

        Its the aussie mentality of its awesome, we dont have to care..

        Ford/Holden are the same, and I've found the same attitude from various 'Premium' Truck dealers as well.

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          #19
          The 208 seems a bit bland, I kinda like the DS3 sport.
          Originally posted by Jim
          the only decent six pot holden ever put in a car was the nissan RB30

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            #20
            Originally posted by Agent86 View Post
            Thats nothing to do with Ford as such.

            Its the aussie mentality of its awesome, we dont have to care..

            Ford/Holden are the same, and I've found the same attitude from various 'Premium' Truck dealers as well.
            Hmm yeah, I know the dealers aren't "Ford" (my dealer told me that repeatedly). But I've noticed the attitude you mention is FAR worse at Ford dealers than Suzuki/Holden/Hyundai/Renault/Triumph/Honda/Husqvarna in my personal experience.

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              #21
              Ive found the local holden dealers to be just as bad as ford. Then again, turning up in an xr6t might have put them off side.

              Who knows.

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                #22
                My biggest question on any of these cars is who is going to buy them second hand? The Clio Sports are a decent thing, but are worth nothing. If you're going to buy a new one and sell it after a couple of years, I'd hate to know how you lose when you sell it.
                "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                (TM - AVENGE)

                "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
                Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02

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                  #23
                  True.

                  Would be getting it salary packaged; on a 5 yr lease the residual on the 208 is only 8k. Considering it'll only have done 80,000km's by the time the lease is up, should still be able to flip it for $9-10k.

                  Same with the 86 GT, 8-9k residual. Would be more inclined to buy out the 86 though.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Dave Gahan View Post
                    someone get the garden hose and wash the gay off this guy
                    The service bills, parts cost and attitude, not to mention value drop, will man him up.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by cheapracer View Post
                      The service bills, parts cost and attitude, not to mention value drop, will man him up.
                      Been awhile since you've dealt with the frogs I gather? Servicing and parts costs are no worse then anyone else, 10k service for my thing was cheaper then the same size service on my previous Rav4 and not much dearer then nopic's Colt. Parts prices also weren't massively high when it had half the front end replaced after the wildlife encounter. I admit the local dealer, Citroen/Puegoet, is abit ordinary with their attitude, still better then my experience with Ford, Holden and Toyota dealers here.
                      As for value drop, yeah well, some models do Ok while others are shocking, still better then Falcon though.

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                        #26
                        86 is a Toyota, which can be driven by P-platers.

                        They'll probably sell for $20k still after five years. And I'm not sure I'm exaggerating.

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                          #27
                          I suspect insurance on 86's will go through the roof very soon, a bit like WRX's in the first few years. They're cheap enough to be purchased by people who will wrap them around trees....
                          2019 Tiguan 162TSI HighLine R-Line ole ftang biscuit barrel
                          2011 Smart ForTwo

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by My limp penis View Post
                            around town below 4000rpm the torque is quite impressive for a two litre- feels shitloads quicker than a 2.7 litre petrol hilux, and they have 240Nm.
                            You'd wanna fucking hope a modern sportscar felt shitloads quicker than a mid 90s Hilux.

                            Buy the 86, it sounds like that's what you really want.
                            Originally posted by Bob Vegana.
                            They strike me as a total piece of shit.

                            So definitely right up my alley.

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                              #29
                              I think Peugeot have got the positioning of the 208GTi right except for the fact there is no auto model.

                              Softer than the Fiesta ST (which I hear is rather firm around town) and full of nice to look at upmarket stuff (touch screen, sunroof etc)

                              I have seen them for 30K drive away.



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                                #30
                                Having owned a French car before.... run for the hills if you intend on keeping it past warranty.

                                IMO, the Fiesta looks better, the critics are raving about it, it's cheaper, and it won't drive you batshit insane with maintenance costs when it has a couple of years and a few kms under its belt.
                                Obligatory skid pic

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