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    China LHD

    India - RHD - withdrawn
    UK - RHD - withdrawn (sold)

    Japan - RHD - but will take lhd but who in Ginza wants a gm POS

    Leaves AUS, NZ and SA. Just don't see how rhd volume is there across multiple product lines. If you had the Uk into the mix maybe, but they sold that.

    Last edited by Lord_fahrquhar; 10-10-19, 04:23 AM.

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      There’s a few SE Asian countries that are RHD but they also have local industry serving them, and barely a GM presence beyond Thai built utes and Korean crap.
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        Originally posted by 138ci View Post
        I was of the (probably incorrect) belief that China is RHD?
        Ooh, I'm pretty sure it isn't; if it is they must allow LHD cars with no penalty (like Japan).

        *Google* *Google*
        Yeah they're LHD. They obviously disliked the Poms at the time that decision was made, too.
        Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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          Thailand and Malaysia are the only RHD countries I can remember seeing GM in and thats not many. Having a quick look GM in Thailand is cutting staff and have 1.5% market share, https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Aut...ce-competition, In malaysia the distributer has dropped them and it appears they have left the market, https://paultan.org/2019/06/21/malay...2019-by-brand/ , I thought I'd seen them in south africa but it appears that they've left there as well https://www.chevrolet.co.za/faq.html

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            ...all of which says to me there's very little to be gained by GM in engineering RHD variants in pitiful volumes like they're selling now, other than the Colorado.

            I think the best plan for GM in Australia is to sell the brand to Inchcape as rumoured earlier in the year. Inchcape has access to PSA and therefore Opel. Rebadge Opel cars and SUVs as Holdens to sell here, and do a deal with GM to continue getting Colorados and anything else that might be of interest from Thailand. I think I read somewhere that PSA was looking at building a ute itself so even that might not be necessary.

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              Not knowing anything much about the logistics of manufacturing, wouldn't the engineering of a RHD variant be no more work these days than adding an extra trim-level?

              Complying to ADR's is probably more effort than designing & tooling-up for RHD.
              Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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                Originally posted by Captain_Slow View Post
                ...all of which says to me there's very little to be gained by GM in engineering RHD variants in pitiful volumes like they're selling now, other than the Colorado.

                I think the best plan for GM in Australia is to sell the brand to Inchcape as rumoured earlier in the year. Inchcape has access to PSA and therefore Opel. Rebadge Opel cars and SUVs as Holdens to sell here, and do a deal with GM to continue getting Colorados and anything else that might be of interest from Thailand. I think I read somewhere that PSA was looking at building a ute itself so even that might not be necessary.
                Might as well do a deal with Isuzu for "Colorados"
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                  Originally posted by itsnotagsr View Post

                  Might as well do a deal with Isuzu for "Colorados"
                  that relationship has gone very sour, next generation isuzu is totally no GM involvement.
                  i cant remember what my GM contact said, it was either a isuzu/mazda or nissan tie up.

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                    Yeah, Isuzu is doing the next Mazda BT-50.

                    But even if the GM-Isuzu relationship is no more, that wouldn't stop Inchcape as the owner of the Holden brand doing a deal with Isuzu (or anyone else) for utes if they can't get a deal out of GM.

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                      2020 Commodore?

                      https://www.caradvice.com.au/801824/...-leaked-buick/

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                        Just wow, and not in a good way.
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                          Holden wants to sell zero cars ?

                          Don't mention the adBlocker !!

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                            a car inspired by the car of the year....camira

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                              Originally posted by Falc&Send View Post
                              That's Toyota Camry level of boring.

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                                To all intents & purposes (and probably also to all intensive purposes) it's just the same as a MY2018 & MY2019 isn't it?
                                I mean that's the base model with the smallest wheels & also in the dullest colour that's not white or silver, but apart from that is anything changed except the grille insert &/or a few air-intake cut-outs that nobody except an anorak would ever pick?
                                Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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