New MCM series - 11sec subaru build. Bald PFer content.

[Agent86]

http://www.performanceforums.com/for...-MotorEx-Brews

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Devcon 2 Barras together. $600.

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[dnegative]

What's a Dodge Viper V10 worth out of the states?
Least you can bolt a T56 to it

[JZK25]

A 1GZ engine/trans package can be bought for $4k or less. Would a modern Merc V12 be anywhere near that affordable? I have no idea but my gut says no.

I paid $2k for my last one with everything. They aren't worth much because the application is limited. Some cunt actually fitted a couple a few years ago and found out they weren't the strongest engine in the world and had high associated costs to fit so the shine went away. They are still a cool engine but you have to be realistic.

[JZK25]

Merc V12 > BMW.

Look for a 5.5 twin turbo model from the early 2000’s if you want something on a budget. Will do 1000hp on stock bottom end no issues


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BMW can't make an I6 properly so a V12 is asking for grief. What's the Merc engine called?

[Jim]

From early to late
M120 6.0L n/a
M137 5.8L n/a
M275 5.5 twin turbo

I haven’t seen them in the flesh but they seem to use a lot of the v8 parts bin and the v8s are by all accounts pretty robust.

V12 prices seem to range between $3k and $8k. The little v8s are dirt cheap tho.

[JZK25]

M275 looks like a good base. Simple and strong.

[Jim]

They had a long production run from 2003 so should be a few around. Only major issue I’m aware of is coil packs crap out and they’re an integrated setup, but 12 ls1 coils and aftermarket ecu would be a no brainer I’d imagine.

[vet 180]

They had a long production run from 2003 so should be a few around. Only major issue I’m aware of is coil packs crap out and they’re an integrated setup, but 12 ls1 coils and aftermarket ecu would be a no brainer I’d imagine.

Yeah the coils are the weak link and serious coin if you buy Genuine MB.

The other weak link is the 5 speed auto once you start nodding them. In saying that 800whp through a 2.5 tonne car isn’t going to be easy on any box. But there is an after market and they can be made strong and they are the same as one of the Jeep boxes.

Always wanted to put into an old SL, but will never happen. The 6.0 is the pick of the bunch, but the 5.5 is stout, common and cheaper.




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[Jim]

The 722.6 /NAG1 is a good box but they do wear out. Thankfully the common wear or faulty stuff is mega cheap. Conductor plate is $150, set of solenoids about the same, and the oil leaks into the connector plug is just an o ring.

[foamy]

What do you do with the auto box ECU wise? I'm assuming someone in the UK has some sort of box that can control it? From what I can see the autos are in a whole bunch of Chrysler's too.

Edit: while we're all on this subject, am taking suggestions for a Toyota to stuff said motor into. Current idea was for a MX73 (just want that velure interior) or maybe a MX32. Something of shitbox vintage preferably.

[Mr Purple]

I have a spare NAG1 you can have cheap!

ECU is the problem. Compushift can allegedly do it, for $1800USD ($2995 direct here, apparently). I heard a rumour a guy in Finland or somewhere equally crazy was making another option.

Torqueflite is a direct fit to a 6.1 hemi that normally runs a NAG1. Does that mean they'd also bolt up to a Mercedes V12? Somehow doubt it, but it would be an interesting project at least.

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Yeah i have the NAG1 in my Jeep behind the Mercedes TD V6. Replaced the leaky seal around the connector and thats it.
They are in Dodge Challengers behind the Hemis and the WK GRAND cherokee SRT etc.

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[Jim]

Denmark. Looks like good gear too.
Www.ofgear.dk

[piss98]

Forget all this Mercedes stuff, the next car Al should build is HIS car.