New MCM series - 11sec subaru build. Bald PFer content.

[neil_se]

Fuck yeah, that'll be a weapon.

[CA18escort]

Compliance data, the 6 cyl cars for 1988 on were under a different compliance number. The 4 cyl car weights are much lower. In fact from memory none of the 4 bangers clear the magic 1100kg mark.

Given what I have seen over the years, most wouldn't let that stop them but it is the legit answer to the question.

[takai]

From the Gingerbeers i have talked to, it doesnt matter. Its the heaviest weight for the chassis in that era.

[Sloth]

yep, triumph 2000 uses a different compliance number to a 2500, yet either can and has been engineered for a ls swap - both weigh similar, yet the 2000 should fall below the allowable. it goes on heaviest model.
same with volvo 240's, early 244 2 door cars are around 1030kg, late sedans are 1300kg.

[gtrboyy]

If you can find heavier weight published for a car can you use that against RMS if they have a lower weight?

[CA18escort]

From the Gingerbeers i have talked to, it doesnt matter. Its the heaviest weight for the chassis in that era.

I am a VSCCS engineer and it does matter but most people turn a blind eye.

It is based on the heaviest tare weight for a sedan without optional extras. The RMS RVDS has all the compliance data so the info is readily accessible.

[CA18escort]

yep, triumph 2000 uses a different compliance number to a 2500, yet either can and has been engineered for a ls swap - both weigh similar, yet the 2000 should fall below the allowable. it goes on heaviest model.
same with volvo 240's, early 244 2 door cars are around 1030kg, late sedans are 1300kg.

Compliance data for both the 2000 and 2500 is 1170kg tare which gives 5850cc NA motor.

Also listed tare weight for 1975 244 2 door is 1220kg Heaviest sedan was the 1984 on 244GLEA 4 door at 1310kg due to all the electrics. The GLA for the same year was 1260kg so fuck all in it.

[CA18escort]

If you can find heavier weight published for a car can you use that against RMS if they have a lower weight?

It would have to be in a relevant technical publication. Wiki doesn't cut it and it is difficult to get it over the line. Think 308 in an LJ Torana. It misses out by 4 kg as tare weight is listed as 1096kg.

[TT]

I thought they mentioned it to be a 1989 320i which was a 6 right?

[gtrboyy]

Terry Bebbington who wrote Holden books '45 Years of Holdens' or one of his other publications I think had lc xu1 as heaviest torana...some dudes in Vic used there torries passed for 5.3/327.

If I can find the book & it has where technocal information came from is that enough to use the highest weight published?

If can't go 5.3 does 304ci scrape in?

[nastysven]

I thought they mentioned it to be a 1989 320i which was a 6 right?

yes.

I am pretty sure.

[HSV Senator]

I would like to find Harry and punch him. Less MCM episodes, HELL NO!

I have loved the extra episodes.

[CA18escort]

Terry Bebbington who wrote Holden books '45 Years of Holdens' or one of his other publications I think had lc xu1 as heaviest torana...some dudes in Vic used there torries passed for 5.3/327.

If I can find the book & it has where technocal information came from is that enough to use the highest weight published?

If can't go 5.3 does 304ci scrape in?

Biggest issue is the 1100kg magic number.

1099kg = 3000cc turbo or 4396cc NA
1100kg = 3300cc turbo or 5500cc NA

Because it isn't a sliding scale there is a a step jump at 1100kg. This is biggest issue because the LJ XU-1 was listed as 1099.6 kg kerb weight on the paperwork. Most websites to tend to round up but....

The LC was only 1013.3kg because 186 vs 202.

[CA18escort]

I thought they mentioned it to be a 1989 320i which was a 6 right?

And after much digging I have the supporting evidence 5900cc NA on the button.

[lukevl]

Thanks for getting the right answer! Can you not add the options to get the weight up a bit? Still can’t get to LS3 but close (love the L98!)