Originally posted by Forg
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Your opinion on this matter is already widely known. From the million other threads you've mentioned it in.
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Just because something is heard regularly doesn't make it untrue.
Stereotypes happen for a reason!Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.Comment
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Not if you are towing a race car and have to carry stuff for it. A lot more space in a SUV than the boot of a car.Originally posted by Forg View PostRichard's DatsunZ lappin LakesidZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSh...&feature=g-upl
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I should clarify ... say you tow once every week, not having Mike Tyson rape you with razor-blades for the remaining 6 days is a Good Thing.Originally posted by 260DET View PostSoft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.Comment
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Who buys a 300C, 5 Series, EClass to tow tho?
If I see cars like this with a tow bar..I automatically get turned off it...
Im sure these manufacturers market these cars for fuel economy...not to tow your race car right? The Tow rating comes down to the weight of the car right?
One of these is parked out the front of my building..Looks awesome..saw the badge and saw ES300h...what an awesome looking car...probably returns better fuel economy then the 300c, looks better (IMO), its probably cheaper to run in terms of maintenance...and would most likely be more reliable...but im guessing because it has a shit tow rating..and FWD it doesn't get a second look..but lets face it..how "FUN" would a Diesel 300c be to drive??
Originally posted by The Property GuruA80 SupraOriginally posted by oxy
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Lol, me ol' 5 series tows like a champ. Bit thirsty in petrol though....Comment
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Check this M3 V Diesel Alpina test.
Diesel dosent have to go like a Hilux.
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Ignore fun, let's take "horrible" into account. If you tow once a week & don't have a specific car for it, that means you're in it the rest of the week. And you're better off in something that at least doesn't suck to be sitting-in in traffic.Originally posted by MR-PUNANNY View PostOne of these is parked out the front of my building..Looks awesome..saw the badge and saw ES300h...what an awesome looking car...probably returns better fuel economy then the 300c, looks better (IMO), its probably cheaper to run in terms of maintenance...and would most likely be more reliable...but im guessing because it has a shit tow rating..and FWD it doesn't get a second look..but lets face it..how "FUN" would a Diesel 300c be to drive??
Sure the Camry you posted above copes with the being comfortable when you're sitting in traffic; but as it can't tow anything, it's not much use for that.
OK if you're not towing & you're needing to carry people around, then the Camry comes back into it (although you'd buy a hybrid Camry with a Toyota badge before one with a Lexus badge, Shirley?).Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.Comment
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My idea with a 300C would be as an occasional tower, apparently they tow like a train with no problems at all. The 'hidden gem' thing relates to value for money, new from around $45000, heaps of grunt and way more economical than any comparable petrol job. Decent enough to drive so they say, it's not a euro but it's not euro priced either. Can't understand why they are not way more popular as a general purpose semi luxury family car.Originally posted by MR-PUNANNY View Post
Fun? Well it's a big car, if you like the unique feeling of a powerful turbo diesel spooling up and hauling then that's fun, generally speaking they do appear to have some character.Richard's DatsunZ lappin LakesidZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSh...&feature=g-upl
“Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit.”
― Jim C. Hines
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
― Daniel Patrick Moynihan
“Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets..”
― Napoleon BonaparteComment
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I'm a convert to modern direct injection diesels, with variable vane turbos (or twins) and 6,7 or 8 speed boxes, these things absolutely haul are and get sensational fuel economy. That aplina video is how I feel about them. In Europe, you wouldn't do it any other way.Originally posted by thebluerx7Comment
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Just found out you can get a wagon version of the Cadillac CTS-V in the states. LSA + TR6060 in a wagon body. Fuck yeah!CAD Automotive Paint Correction, like us on the faceballs. Discounts on all detailing and ceramic coatings for PF membersComment
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That's the thing that gets me - if you're a bit of a stats nerd then these modern diesels look unbelieveable on paper!Originally posted by I'm DJ! View PostComment
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I can't understand why Chrysler offer the V6 at all. The car is way to heavy and it becomes a petrol chewing slug of a thing where the diesel has to perform better with all that torque. Modern CR diesels are awesome for towing, I went from a 304 V8 to a 2 litre CR diesel and the diesel shits all over the V8 in every way.Comment
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0-100km/h in flat 7's and even high 6's
And better economy than a commodore 6 says your wrong
The pentastar v6 is a good unit..........Comment
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