New car imports

[Gary2JZ]

145,773 GBP or $298,901.87 AUD post-tax is 121478 pre-tax, or AUD 249570.
Add 10% GST that's 274527.
Add LCT that's 344270.

So it's $478k vs $345k.

Yes it's cheaper, but there can't be that many people saying "I can afford a car for $350k with no warranty but I can't afford one for $500k"?
I'd obviously choose the same thing for $350k over $500k, who wouldn't; but I can't imagine being to afford a $350k car and instead spending $500k making any difference to me.
Maybe I just can't imagine having that much toy-money.

Yeah extreme example but I see a big oppurtunity to be the import dealer chuck on a premium to get factory style support undercut the official guys by $100k

[Gary2JZ]

first guy who works out an all in one solution for import luxury cars, (you order, they buy, they ship, they finance, they deliver) gets to be a billionaire.

Yep, add in the 'factory' after sales support for piece of mind and you will kill it.

[Captiva Fan]

Using that logic all porsche 911 sold in oz would be turbos no?

Very good point, yeah.

[TJ Shermuz]

AMG E63 S
84720 GPB
- VAT = 67776 GBP
$139.123 AUD
+ GST $13,912
+ $5000 shipping
+ LCT $29,950
= $187,985

Mercedes Benz AU price $265,846.85

Saving $77,861

[Shitbreak]

Have to agree with Forg there. Its an entirely different case when you have a manufacturer offering different levels of car.

I'd be willing to bet someone with 350k ready to spend on a car would buy a factory supported Carrera 4S over a 'grey import' turbo.

And being an importer with decent after sales support that is even remotely similar to a factory manufacturer is not going to be cheap in the slightest (i.e. it will be much bigger operation than your usual importer business). I'd hazard a guess that providing factory style warrenty and support would be unfeasible in Australia given the volume of sales for this grey import market of these sort of lux/performance cars.

I'm willing to bet that the big ticket in these new import laws are cars that were never brought here, or the classic/older cars.

[Captiva Fan]

AMG E63 S
84720 GPB
- VAT = 67776 GBP
$139.123 AUD
+ GST $13,912
+ $5000 shipping
+ LCT $29,950
= $187,985

Mercedes Benz AU price $265,846.85

Saving $77,861

Now if as an importer you could do a deal with a company that has both insurance & finance arms, and you could pay them $10k/yr in "Warranty Insurance" ... you could offer the same car for ~$45k less than MB Oz.
You'd want to get in quick before MB Oz cuts $80k of cream off the top of their E63 S prices & smashes your business.

[rj_astra]

NSX /thread

You'd have to import it from UK or Japan after it was delivered there from the USA. Why would you bother?

[Captiva Fan]

You'd have to import it from UK or Japan after it was delivered there from the USA. Why would you bother?

Because it's a really unusual situation where they violate the pricing structure here vs there (Toyobaru being a really rare example), and so the NSX is likely to be >$100k cheaper in the UK than here?
Although given how long it'll be 'til there is a production NSX, it might not be so overpriced here if this change is looming on the horizon.
End result of this could be a reduction in real choice, I guess, the main players might not import as many of their smaller-volume models, meaning the only choice is to buy one without warranty?

[Shitbreak]

What do you mean?
Why cant you import an NSX directly from Japan or the UK?

After I posted that, I did the sums and it seams NSX's are still quite expensive in the UK at least. But I don't get your USA comment.

EDIT: I was referring to the old NSX btw. I give very few fucks for new cars.

[rj_astra]

AMG E63 S
84720 GPB
- VAT = 67776 GBP
$139.123 AUD
+ GST $13,912
+ $5000 shipping
+ LCT $29,950
= $187,985

Mercedes Benz AU price $265,846.85

Saving $77,861

Wouldn't most people lease? Tell me how that works for this scenario?
I am thinking that these cars (E63, M5 etc) would be the LAST on the list of desirables because of that fact.

You would be smarter (??) to import something that similar but not the same as a locally delivered vehicle.
AWD BMW 3 series Wagon? 335D Xdrive saloon, or a manual version of a car that only comes her in Auto.

[Jack Nicholson]

AMG E63 S
84720 GPB
- VAT = 67776 GBP
$139.123 AUD
+ GST $13,912
+ $5000 shipping
+ LCT $29,950
= $187,985

Mercedes Benz AU price $265,846.85

Saving $77,861

Shouldn't there be 5% duty in there as well?

Rather useful tool on this site http://aussieexotics.com/calculators.../?value=139000 which calculates the actual landed cost to be $197k, which is still $67k cheaper...

And that doesn't count stamp duty, or other on-road costs. Is the E63S $266k on the road? EDIT $250k excluding on-roads, so you'd "only" be saving $53k in the end, still not worth it!

[Captiva Fan]

What do you mean?
Why cant you import an NSX directly from Japan or the UK?

After I posted that, I did the sums and it seams NSX's are still quite expensive in the UK at least. But I don't get your USA comment.

NSX's are designed & built in the USA.
His point might be that you wouldn't want one ...

[Jack Nicholson]

Hmmmm....new Jaaaaag XJR is $320k on the road, or $297k without on-roads

UK list price without VAT & on-roads is £75,070.83 which works out at $154k

Calculator tool says $220k delivered not including on-roads, so $77k cheaper...

[fatz]

Now we need to start the debate on LCT

We have two year to punt that fucker

[Shonky]

Yeah extreme example but I see a big oppurtunity to be the import dealer chuck on a premium to get factory style support undercut the official guys by $100k

Except it's for personal buyers (I think) limited to 1 car every two years. Now maybe that business becomes simply an import facilitator - but you can't charge $50k for that.