Focus RS

[TJ]

1378kg is lightweight?

Peugeot 308 GTI = 1205kg - that's lightweight

Did previous Civics have a turbo or a torsion beam rear axle?

So I can't see the how the new civic type R is in anyway like the old ones.

This

It's nothing like any Type R before

[Captiva Fan]

It's a VTi-R or an Si ... hopefully the NSX sparks a bit more aing over in Hondaland, they don't seem to realise that the entire fact they're bigger than Daihatsu as a car-manufacturer is because of the not-refrigerator aspects of Accords & Civics from the 70's to the mid 90's.

[Cliffordcliffs]

That may be the reason they are not as big as Toyota. Enthusiasts are only a small % of the market.

The focus RS is not like the last model either, and there are many other examples, look at Porsche etc. it's called progress, whether you like it or not. Buyers now demand more 'fluff'.

[Captiva Fan]

That may be the reason they are not as big as Toyota. Enthusiasts are only a small % of the market.

Nah, they purely took off at all because they were a nice drive.
Subaru the same, more recently though & not for as long.
Mazda sell so many 3's because for about 10 years after they changed it from '323' to '3', it was the nicest-feeling car in that price-range.
VW's recentish resurgence has been largely because they're generally nice places to be, even for an enthusiast, in the price-range they occupy.

Non-enthusiasts may not know why their interior doesn't rattle & shake, and they can turn a corner while still feeling completely in control; but they do still feel it.

[Bluprint]

Didn't take long (again)

[Sturmovik]

Side airbags for that?

[MR 1JZ]

why u feel so insecure yohoes .... lol bloody GTR owners, good on Ford for giving it a crack, just a bit heavy for my liking

a recent review had this too say ..

' Of all the hot-hatches I've driven, the BMW M135i stands tallest in the fun department (rear-wheel drive is tough to beat) while the Focus RS and Honda Civic Type R feel like the most accomplished for blasting around a circuit.

But where the Civic Type R needs precision to really get the best from it, the Focus RS can be driven by an idiot and it would still make them look good (unless they hit a road cone). That's not to say there won't be lots of Focus RS cars written off while their drivers attempt to go sideways, of course.'

I fell asleep reading that post

[Stevil]

yet u felt inclined to respond .... go figure ! the pic above will be the first of many I suspect.

[Greg Rust]

Perhaps the Echo failed to give way.

[clutch-monkey]

to be fair you won't see many type R's crashed

because honda will sell about three of them
:p

[Stevil]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qldKlCVv8I

[tremolo]

Stevil can you pls go & start a Type R Civic thread & talk to yourself in there?

[Stevil]

lol maybe if cunts werent so precious there wouldnt be a conversation..... Ill say no more

[yohoes]

So how bout those Knicks?

[Evaku8]