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    Refer to post #149 above.....

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      Originally posted by irsa76 View Post
      Even cars on temporary import, carnet, aren't immune from this shit:http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/australian-border-patrol-nabs-maseratis-111746/
      the publicity must of struck a raw nerve with border force :

      article updated yesterday with border force officlal statement re these maseratis :

      Update, March 23, 2018: Australian Border Force has responded to this story, and the statement issued is reproduced below, in full:
      The ABF did not conduct asbestos testing on any of the vehicles and there was no damage to any of the vehicles. Two of the vehicles did not have the required import approval from the Australian Government and were therefore held at the border. It is the responsibility of the importer to ensure that Vehicle Import Approval is in place prior to importing cars to Australia.
      The other six vehicles were identified as potentially containing asbestos and the importer could not provide appropriate assurances that they did not. The importer declined to have the vehicles tested for asbestos. The importer was given permission to export the vehicles.
      The ABF is not responsible for granting permission to import goods containing asbestos. This can only be done by applying to the Minister for Small and Family Business, the Workplace and Deregulation.

      The ABF recommends all classic car importers ensure their vehicles donít contain asbestos before they arrive in Australia. Any suspect parts should be removed before transport to Australia to minimise costs, delays and impacts on vehicles.
      The removal and testing of any components is undertaken by qualified independent hygienists not ABF officers. Testing can be avoided if importers provide sufficient assurance to demonstrate that imported goods do not contain asbestos or that suspect parts have been removed before import.
      Australiaís ban on asbestos is not new and the significant health risks of asbestos are well known. We donít want to unduly penalise classic car importers, but asbestos can kill and we have an obligation to protect the community from any asbestos coming into the country.

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        Typical government response, 'talk to this other department who's guaranteed will know nothing about it and probably tell you to speak to us again'
        I do see their point but the cars were under a carnet, some common sense would of been nice to see.

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          Isnít the potato Dutton responsible for this shit now?

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            Itís complete bullshit, you can bet the bar for satisfying them that your car has no asbestos is so high as to make it not worth it.

            [edit] unless you make up receipts to show you replaced every potential source of asbestos was replaced....

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              To be honest no fucker is going to take ABF's response to this seriously.

              They're next level shitcunt usually.

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                It's shit, but if you're serious about bringing something in it's just another step to tick off given places in the US have quickly cottoned on and do NATA recognised certificates and can replace parts. Makes it more expensive definitely but nobody ever said the importing part was cheap!

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                  Originally posted by piss98 View Post
                  It's shit, but if you're serious about bringing something in it's just another step to tick off given places in the US have quickly cottoned on and do NATA recognised certificates and can replace parts. Makes it more expensive definitely but nobody ever said the importing part was cheap!

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                  What about bringing in a car from elsewhere in the word?
                  Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the end of the world?

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                    Send it to the US first (for asbestos testing and loading with cocaine) and then on transit to Australia.
                    Marvellous things so quickly get mundane

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                      Would mostly be the UK and they have pretty strict asbestos laws too so good chance they would be able to sort it prior to export but finding someone may be harder as the US is more set up around vehicle exports (just my impression). Anywhere else yeh it would be a cunt.

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                        Surprised no one has said anything about bringing Japanese cars over filled with Fukashima pixie dust and the clear danger to public safety it represents.
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                          Just watched MCM video about their 240z from Japan. Ended up importing sans engine and brakes because it was put in the too hard basket to prove zero asbestos.

                          Fucking bullshit IMO
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                          particularly when your body is functioning like a 1970s Alfa made by drunken chimpanzees on a Friday afternoon

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                            if you really wanted to keep the 240z OG, it wouldn't have been excessive, pull engine, remove head gasket, manifold gaskets, remove brake pad and shoes and wash then drop the clutch off and wash the gear box, have car tested.
                            but if you know that you are going to modify it, pull it out, wash the engine bay suspension and ship

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                              Originally posted by bg0013 View Post
                              if you really wanted to keep the 240z OG, it wouldn't have been excessive, pull engine, remove head gasket, manifold gaskets, remove brake pad and shoes and wash then drop the clutch off and wash the gear box, have car tested.
                              but if you know that you are going to modify it, pull it out, wash the engine bay suspension and ship
                              The problem is proving 0% asbestos when 0.001% is enough to delay everything and incur fines
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                                Originally posted by clutch-monkey View Post
                                The problem is proving 0% asbestos when 0.001% is enough to delay everything and incur fines
                                This. End of the day it probably isn't that bad if you're dealing with the right importer, but you can swap out every single consumable asbestos part, have receipts for all of it etc. etc., and upon arrival someone could arbitrarily decide that they need a sample of seam sealer or windscreen gasket, and now someone you've never met or spoke to is carving chunks out of your car to access some material that at worst was still never going to hurt anyone if left untouched, and at best was never a problem at all anyway, charging you money for their services and testing, and leaving you with a repair bill.
                                Originally posted by myshortyboomba
                                I've had many gauges in cars. I always found the conrods react faster than a gauge.

                                you can always hear them when they break and they stop the engine immediately so you can't do any more damage.

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