Hehehe... how many Swifts did you see with trispokes going round! I guess everyone who had a swift migrated to the wrx. There is probably a similar antipathy after a while. Nothing to do with how good the car is, just that everyone had one.
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"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917
"In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
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"You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
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we always get the export pov pack GTI's anyway, so if it's in the local market the golf will loose.
our GTI had 98hp, the base british one has 112hp...Comment
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We got stuck with the 8v Mk2s. Did we get the Mk1s?"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917
"In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
(TM - AVENGE)
"You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02Comment
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GTiR
Though clarkson's head to head of the euro hatches is a classic - the old golf smashes the newbies all over the shop
bahComment
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"Our" Gti's 98hp was the same for every country that was hit with unleaded fuel at the time.our GTI had 98hp, the base british one has 112hp...Comment
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No one has mentioned any civics.....Vtec doesnt rate a mention?"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917
"In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
(TM - AVENGE)
"You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02Comment
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Daihatsu Charade G201 Detomaso
93kw (early to mid 90's) from 16v 1.6
LSD
Most power options
Quite good suspension set-up from the factory
Factory Recaro's
Ric Bates F2 winning Charade was based on the Detomaso, as was the one that won a year or two ago
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G100 Charade GTti
100hp 993cc Twincam Turbo
VERY strong motor and ancillaries, will easily make double the factory output without the need for upgraded internals/fuel system etc, the British club racers are getting around 250hp from reasonably standard engines with bigger turbo's and programmable ECU'sComment
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ET pulsar started it all here in oz
in unmodified form, were a quick nible relliable package.....
modified takes away the reliabilty factor!!!
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1. my swift never had tri-spokes.Originally posted by itsnotagsr
Hehehe... how many Swifts did you see with trispokes going round! I guess everyone who had a swift migrated to the wrx. There is probably a similar antipathy after a while. Nothing to do with how good the car is, just that everyone had one.
2. i wouldn't be seen dead in a wrx :Dno i don't own a swift
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RA28....
what??... its a hatchThats right!! Nobody f#cks with TeH JeSuS
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Series 1 mazda RX-7 turbo :D. an absolute classic any way you look at it.Grant MorrisonsComment
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Thats drifting a bit far away from the definition of a hatch! Maybe someone should start up a coupe thread!
I define hatch as small car usually based on a fwd chassis, having a liftback style rear "door" (to satisfy Secoh and Rowds
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"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917
"In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
(TM - AVENGE)
"You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02Comment
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I think the T16 was far from being a Q car.Originally posted by itsnotagsr
Hehehe... bit of a Q car
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...car.mv&num=410
Wheel arches like that aren't very Q-like.
But, I don't consider a Group B Rally Car to be a hot hatch, it's a bit oo manic for that.
How about Ford Escort RS Cosworth? That was one serioulsy horn car.
I'd agree with the Focus RS too. That'd be my pick of the current hyper hatches...until I change my mind againComment
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The T16 was also available in a road only version called the 205T16 Group B "Client". Came in any color you wanted as long as it was dark grey
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Hang on ... we're allowed to modify cars to come up with a "best" hot hatch?Originally posted by joshua
Series 1 mazda RX-7 turbo :D. an absolute classic any way you look at it.Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.Comment
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