New NSW Speeding Laws

[Jonnycumlately]

When speed cameras first came into Victoria I got done for 63 in a 60 zone. Now I saw the mongrel sitting on the side of the road and I wasn't speeding. I was in a rent a car and ensured I was on 60 on the speedo but despite this it was wrong - obviously faulty. I got the fine about two months later and despite my protests I was told to pay up. This is only one of two I've had in 24 years (the other one the throttle stuck on a borrowed 400 cube Pontiac).

In NSW you have to show a sign saying that there are speed cameras in use but in Melbourne they just do what they bloody want (which when it comes to speed cameras usually is stuffed up). Because of this I hate going to Melbourne with a passion - I'd hate to live there with this shit going on constantly

[smellytofu]

But funny enough, going thru the advisory speed check crossing the border into Mexico, the Suby speedo was actually over stating the speed by about 3%.. so 100 was actually 97/98 clicks. The car has about 7,000km now.. so the tyres maybe a still a bit "fresh". This is the same for the Impreza RS...

I had seen the words +/- bit as well... haven't checked lately though.

[Captiva Fan]

Originally posted by Jonnycumlately
In NSW you have to show a sign saying that there are speed cameras in use

Only fixed ones must be visible; mobile cameras (which do seem to be being phased-out because they actually cost money/manpower to run) seem to be able to have that little blue sign displayed proudly in a tree three blocks away on a parallel backstreet ...

[dsm2002]

Originally posted by Brenton_s15
Sorry guy's but the +/-10% stuff is urban legend and not correct.

Effectively this is correct. The ADRs may allow 10% error, but that does not automatically mean that this translates to a statutory error range for speed detection and aloocating penalties. It may be expected that you know (or it work out via the measured distance markers on hwys) the error inherent in the speedometer and adjust your driving.

This is different from the allowances that [some] police make (outside Vic, it seems) where they may allow for e is a reasonable margin. These are usually informal or less formal local policies.



PS: Vic Police's anal interpretation is a major factor in determining my holiday destination. I don't plan to go there. It's not that I plan to speed it just I would be concerned at the potential penalty for an occasional lapse. My view is fluck'em.

[AndyMac]

DSM2002.

I'm not suggesting anything at all, but in a nice way...Do you use speed cameras in your line of work ?

Not that theres anything wrong with that...

[dsm2002]

Originally posted by AndyMac
DSM2002.

I'm not suggesting anything at all, but in a nice way...Do you use speed cameras in your line of work ?

Not that theres anything wrong with that...

Nup. I work for a different level of gummint. I know how the gummint mind works (???)

[Captiva Fan]

"Gummint Mind" ... is that a term similar in style to "Military Intelligence"?

[dsm2002]

Originally posted by Forg
"Gummint Mind" ... is that a term similar in style to "Military Intelligence"?

yep

[tinkerbell]

Originally posted by dsm2002
Effectively this is correct. The ADRs may allow 10% error, but that does not automatically mean that this translates to a statutory error range for speed detection and aloocating penalties. It may be expected that you know (or it work out via the measured distance markers on hwys) the error inherent in the speedometer and adjust your driving.

you might also calculate the rolling diameter of your tyre and calculate the error from using larger or smaller tyres...

BUT this still does not mean that your needle pointing at a number on a dial is acurate enough to discern the difference between 60 and 62 km/h...

or does it mean we all have to drive around at BELOW the limit so we can be sure???

i drove past a stationary HWP car just outside Gundagai at and indicated 115 on the Hume, but he did not pursue?

but when i went through the radar checking thingy past Albury (in Victoria) at an indicated 115 it did not register (it stated that it did not display readings above 117km/h)

so i can only assum that my speedo is at least +3 km/h out...

how can they set limits that are so hard for the motorist to be able to appreciate?

sure a radar can measure speed, but a dial and a needle have to interpreted by the driver...

i would take it to court on principle.

for < 3km/h over

> 4km/h i would cop sweet...

[Captiva Fan]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
how can they set limits that are so hard for the motorist to be able to appreciate?

Because
* "they" are not elected
* "they" have a very good idea of how to use the media
* "they" have protection of their own jobs as a MUCH higher priority than road safety

[Zac]

If only politics was a job and not a career..