Lets compare the 2.0L's

[rhspecr]

Originally posted by Tirlista

rhspecr: you seem to be a bit of a fan of 2.0l turbo cars! Starting a solid collection of nice vehicles there!

Yep i like them mainly cause there so easy to throw around. Rex is the other halves and the sx will make room for the evo.

Cant see the jap spec sx making over 200kw, though. Were quoted as being around 186kw which feels about right.

[200sxS14]

The Jap spec S15 only makes 185 rwkw. The SR20DET is the superior motor though. Can any of the others make 250rwkw with the stock internals and still be reliable? I think not.

[rhspecr]

The 4g63 is a tougher motor than the sr, no two ways about it. 250rwkw is not possible on the sr without changing the cams and the pistons dont last long. So that aint stock internals and the engine would not last to long on that power. To get 250kw requires some serious work.
Not in a million years does the jap spec s15 make 185 atw. I would think closer to 145ish.

[Jag7799]

Well the 4g63T gets my vote... strongest engine out of all of them.. most power stock.. makes more torque than a 2jz gte in std trim on latest incarnations(460nm i beleive?) and it powers a car like an evo to a 13 flat stock and corners like no other.

Sr20 has alot of aftermarket support.. but the 3s gte is actually the better engine out of the 2.. just a lot less common.. alot sturdier too i beleive..

dont know much about the ej

[PLAYA]

Originally posted by rhspecr
The 4g63 is a tougher motor than the sr, no two ways about it. 250rwkw is not possible on the sr without changing the cams and the pistons dont last long. So that aint stock internals and the engine would not last to long on that power. To get 250kw requires some serious work.
Not in a million years does the jap spec s15 make 185 atw. I would think closer to 145ish.

i agree that the SR is not the best motor on the list.

I just dont agree with some of what u say tho. i made 244 rwkw on a std internal sr. not a single thing touched internally.

also hows 360+ rwkw on a std sr bottom end?
http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/pinkbits.htm

[rhspecr]

Mmmm, i have modded and tuned perhaps 30 odd sr engines and haven't seen anything on a dynodynamics get over 205kw atw without new DOHC's. Just cant get the fuel in and gasses out. But 300+kw on standard bottom end is possible, but the cranks and bottom end bearning dont ast long. If you have a bluebird, then perhaps the gearing would have something to do with that, cause certainly with an s15 gearbox and diff, it wont reach 244 on standard internals, just cant do it.

[PLAYA]

I run standard s13 5 speed and 4.11:1 diff ratio so very close to s13 diff ratio. I know about 10 srs, std internals making around the 240-250 mark std internals no aftermarket cams. I dont know what you have been doing to them but most ppl dont seem to have a problem.

[Evo_Lee]

The SR20 does not make 185rwkw stock, I think people are getting it mixed with flywheel power.

I'll probably sound bias but the 4G63 is stronger and will make 230kw at all 4 wheels with the factory turbo on an unopen motor, high-flow the factory turbo and you will see a bit more. However what's impressive is the Evo package comes with a factory 9sec gear box .

I'm not sure what's the point of this thread, but any one familiar with these motors will know, the above mention 4 engines will all make 550-570ps from the 2L setup then make 750-800ps from a 2.2L setup.

[vrmmmpshhh]

yes i definately mean flywheel not atw. its stupis to think it would make that much atw stock.

[TJ]

sr20 is probobly the worst of the lot, not the best

[hostile]

Originally posted by TRIAL
20b

owns j00 all

werd:worship: :D

[astraboy]

Z20LET

[Cookiemonster]

Well I own a Mitsubishi so I'll say 4G63 to make it look like I have a big dick.

Although I may get a Nissan, so I'll give the SR motor the thumbs up for future big dick potential.

[jtir]

SR20DET is the budget performer, not the best performer.

4G63 is the better Japanese motor.

Cosworth from the other side of the world.

Down under, anything less than 350ci is not a motor :D

[GaryD]

Originally posted by snavy
how about we compare 2.0L NA's to NA's, turbos to turbos.

Ok NA wise how about the 2.0L Mivec?

Got nuthn on sr20ve