Hypothetically - if the public revoluted against speed revenue, what will happen?

[EvilChief]

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[tim510]

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[Jamx6]

If the government jailed everyone it would be political suicide - we don't live in a dictatorship so its not "us" and "them" (though often seems like it)

Easiest way: elect to contest in court....every single one of them

Lets see, your hearing would come up in about....2006!

[HSV]

Actually i think it would be much longer than 2006...... im still waiting to hear about a speed camera fine i contested that i got in 2000.......

[SomeCrazyMofo_]

Not trying to sound like a complete and utter tool here... but if you want to stop revinue raising completely all you need to do is not speed. If EVERY SINGLE person agrees not to speed, there is going to be zero income for speed camperas, and then they have to justify their loss in revinue over the lives saved.

I have not read or know enough about the reaearch into speeding as a major killer on the roads, but i am good family friends with one of the leaders of the campaign. He is very adimant that speeding can cause ingory, but believe bad driving is a far more serious threat.

If you want to stop the debate over speeding once and for all, drive to work 5 kays slower, dont get your speeding fine, and lower their revninue. Once revinue stops and cameras become obsoblete, we will once again own the road *insert evil grin*

[Captiva Fan]

Speeding could cause injury in theory, however nobody has ever been able to prove that it does, despite having thrown lots of money at trying to prove that it does ever since the technology was available to automatically generate speeding tickets. 20 years of trying to prove a correlation, without finding one, smells a helluva lot like there ain't one; and it's immoral when you're in power to behave as though there is one when you can't find one.

It is understandable that someone could be convinced that there is a correlation, and then be rather adamant about the whole issue because there are lives at stake. But that's because they're looking at outcomes & not causes; they're being misled by people who have something to gain by producing erroneous or dodgy information.

Driving too slowly is dangerous, SomeCrazyMofo_. I'm not going to go out there & risk my LIFE over speeding fines.

[dazza]

SomeCrazyMofo_ the point most people will make is that it is just dangerous to drive below the speed that the general flow of traffic is following...

If people are free to do whatever speed they like then you find that people actually take in their surroundings rather than just follow an arbitrary speed! My point being there are often times on 60 roads where something is on the road etc where you must slow to be safe but people with blinders on just keep following at 60 while an alert person will slow to avoid

It's more than just removing a compulsary limit it teach's stupid drivers to think! (*Well in theory)

[TonyJZX]

Yeah well, I will freely give my details for this.

The way I see it, this sort of peaceful dissent is nothing if not tolerated in this country.

I don't see how there would be any sort of recourse for the government because if themajority of people are for this, is this not democracy at work?

T.

[Captiva Fan]

Maybe I'm getting too cynical, but I see that there are times when The Majority are wrong. For example, far too many people were in support of Pauline Hanson - many more than would admit it now. The right thing isn't always how people have perceived it to be; and it's that fact that you'd use to justify doing something that the people you're governing-over don't agree with.

[TonyJZX]

I'd also point out that some people may say that they don't want to pay tax either even though it is a necessity in our society.

Fines =/ tax

T.

[mizone]

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Bozz I'm pretty sure majority of the aussie population would join in on the fines boycott...

If no-one paid what would they do?

it's not like they could jail people because there would just be too many and what are they gonna do add to the fine?
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No they'd do what they do here in WA. Suspend everyones license.

[TonyJZX]

I think Rusty touches on a point that in the Victorian example, speeding revenue is already down to a very critical level so I guess you guys can slow down as much as you want, the Bracks government still wants their blood from YOUR stones.

T.

[TonyJZX]

Originally posted by rusty
could you do me a favour and elaborate on your reference to victoria & revenue.. thx

I think this is a good example of mass delusion with the 3km/h leeway.

People ARE slowing down, fines are down by a large margin (in the hundreds of millions).

But fatalities remain static.

So what is the government to do?

They've been so successful that they are not getting their allotted revenue.

I'd imagine they are going to get even more medieval.

T.

[willsy01]

Rusty for PM

[tinkerbell]

where do we get the stickers from?

or do we need to speak to the owner of speedingisbullshit.com?

or is he/she on the forum?