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    When to switch to DIY servicing on newer vehicle?

    Having this ongoing debate with the nopics about when to switch the Kluger over to DIY servicing and the value of a stamped logbook vs cost of servicing.

    For me its once the ongoing costs are 10x inflated ($35 oil and $10 filter = $450 service) that its just not worth it anymore. That $400 saved a year should relatively offset the loss on resale.

    When do others reckon the crossover point is?
    Chris
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    #2
    IMHO when it's out of warranty.
    Also IMHO, if you keep a log of the servicing you do yourself (just an exercise book), and attach receipts for the parts you buy to the logbook, that's going to convince 95% of potential future buyers that you serviced it properly.

    It's been my experience, however, that a decent mechanic doesn't cost much more than the retail cost of the consumables that I have to pay. Once it's off the warranty & given the nopix' cars only get ~5k km on them a year, I'll get them serviced once a year at the same time as the pink-slip inspection & the cost of it all combined isn't far removed from me putting that effort in myself & buying the Stuff from kabab.
    Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post

      It's been my experience, however, that a decent mechanic doesn't cost much more than the retail cost of the consumables that I have to pay.
      Lol. Even at retail the Kluger costs $70 in consumables. Last mechanic service was $480. $410 to drain oil and refill and change filter?
      Chris
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      I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself. - D.H.Lawrence

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        #4
        Probably wait till the warranty is over but that can really be such a manufacturer/dealer driven thing. Some dealers wont give a flying fuck about service history and will bend over to get shit fixed and others will just shut you down at the first step.
        Or just get a mechanic you know to sign your book with his license number or workshop stamp lol

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          #5
          I've always gone
          0-60k (or whatever the warranty period was)- dealer services
          60k-150k- independent services
          150k+ - self service

          I figure a normal car is basically worthless once you hit that 150k mark, so no point paying someone else to do it. I just keep the receipts and window sticker, and update the service book myself. Should satisfy most high kilometre buyers who are after a sub $10k car.

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            #6
            Originally posted by takai View Post

            Lol. Even at retail the Kluger costs $70 in consumables. Last mechanic service was $480. $410 to drain oil and refill and change filter?
            Yep. $35 oil + $10 Filter + $450 'replace oil and filter + inspect xyz'. Used to shit me when I got an itemised list of the 40+ things they had allegedly inspected. Horseshit. Especially in one case where they actually broke an intake hose 'inspecting' it.

            Gats schedule above is a good idea. Warranty period at dealer (especially if fixed price or free) independent while it still retains some chance of decent resale, home at 150km+ where anyone you're dealing with when selling it either won't care or will be happy to buy on condition and some receipts.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mr Purple View Post
              Gats schedule above is a good idea. Warranty period at dealer (especially if fixed price or free)
              I thought that the damage caused by a dealer service department wasn't worth the potential slightly better resale, let alone the fact that the Holden capped-price dealer service still costs more than getting a proper mechanic to do services properly.

              Which reminds me - ta! - gotta book the last in-warranty-period service for the nopix' Commode, only noticed it was about due on the weekend!
              Last edited by Captiva Fan; 16-09-19, 12:37 PM.
              Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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                #8
                I reckon if your going to keep it to the point where it' doesn't matter of it's got a service book or not in resale value. Non car people panic when they don't see a dealer stamp. Or you could do a once a year at a mechanic and do the rest yourself.

                For me I started servicing 33 nano seconds after the warranty expired. The dealers wanted $650 for an oil and filter change, no loan car and when i did cough that up for a service didn't change the oil or filter or do warranty stuff.

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                  #9
                  Wait till warranty is over....

                  Get a stamp made that says "Service Completed" with a dotted line underneath for date and odometer reading if you like.

                  Stamp the service book, write down the date.

                  As long as you aren't suggesting you are a mechanical business and are just documenting the services that are completed alls good. End of the day, it's only a record book

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
                    I thought that the damage caused by a dealer service department wasn't worth the potential slightly better resale, let alone the fact that the Holden capped-price dealer service still costs more than getting a proper mechanic to do services properly.
                    Probably. But I turn my daily over every 4-5 years anyway and it's easier for me to sell it with a full dealer stamped logbook. Any potential servicing issues then become the next person's problem.

                    My other cars I never sell and completely rebuild them every 10-15 years anyway so any records are irrelevant.

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                      #11
                      My father always did the basic services on his cars himself from brand new. Completed the log book, had his own detailed log book and kept all receipts. He was pretty confident that in event of a warranty claim he'd be fine with his proof, that and being a lawyer.

                      I've never owned anything new/valuable enough to care. That said, we pay an independent for the wife's Forester, it's newer and I really would rather not deal with the head fuck of listening to her if anything went wrong, related or not to my working on it.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by takai View Post
                        Having this ongoing debate with the nopics about when to switch the Kluger over to DIY servicing and the value of a stamped logbook vs cost of servicing.

                        For me its once the ongoing costs are 10x inflated ($35 oil and $10 filter = $450 service) that its just not worth it anymore. That $400 saved a year should relatively offset the loss on resale.

                        When do others reckon the crossover point is?
                        Thanks for posting this, I was just about to pose the same question to PF.

                        I've started servicing both family cars, in part to justify the $2k purchase of the Quickjacks. Both are out of warranty.

                        Very interested to see what people think about the impact on resale value. Both cars are at the point where I suspect any loss in resale value will be more than offset by the servicing savings - but I have no evidence to back this up.

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                          #13
                          If we are talking about a Ford, I would suggest from the minute you take delivery, unless you enjoy having parts broken, incorrect oil being used and conversations with service managers who know zero about repairing cars.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
                            IMHO when it's out of warranty.
                            Also IMHO, if you keep a log of the servicing you do yourself (just an exercise book), and attach receipts for the parts you buy to the logbook, that's going to convince 95% of potential future buyers that you serviced it properly.

                            It's been my experience, however, that a decent mechanic doesn't cost much more than the retail cost of the consumables that I have to pay. Once it's off the warranty & given the nopix' cars only get ~5k km on them a year, I'll get them serviced once a year at the same time as the pink-slip inspection & the cost of it all combined isn't far removed from me putting that effort in myself & buying the Stuff from kabab.
                            Dare I forgree
                            but yes, as above. Skip the dealer and head to the local guy unless you really enjoy the DIY.
                            Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons


                            Originally posted by seedyrom
                            my neighbours called the cops...... not because of the sound of me working in the garage was too loud, but because i taped a cardboard box to my back, covered my self in vaseline and pretended i was a snail on their lawn

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by takai View Post

                              Lol. Even at retail the Kluger costs $70 in consumables. Last mechanic service was $480. $410 to drain oil and refill and change filter?
                              So labour, shop supplies, waste oil disposal, etc shouldn't be charged to the customer?
                              Originally posted by brewdles
                              In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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