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    #46
    Originally posted by fdrx7
    I'm pretty sure SP = Fairlady CSP = Silvia (as in c = coupe).
    There you go, something new I learnt. The one I saw for sale was definately a silver CSP311 Silvia. Beautiful car.
    The customer.

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      #47
      Jake, youve got a PM.
      Pete, any clue on where on the SC it was for sale?
      $20k + is a lot to pay for an unseen 35yo import...bit scary
      http://www.larryscustomcycles.com.au

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        #48
        fairladys arent worth as much:

        http://www.shannons.com.au/shannons/...256E9800022DD7
        http://www.larryscustomcycles.com.au

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          #49
          Originally posted by edo
          You can blame MGB's for that. Even though, at the time, the Fairlady 1600 and 2000 were better cars, these days it's all about the badge

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            #50
            gawd, if they drive like MGBs then they need lots of work
            http://www.larryscustomcycles.com.au

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              #51
              Originally posted by edo
              gawd, if they drive like MGBs then they need lots of work
              Nothing is as bad as a MGB to drive unless you are dreaming about Morris Marinas and other assorted UK scum
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                #52

                That isn't a very good example of the cars and it is only a 1500. It also has an L series engine which immediately halves the value.

                Decent 2000s start at about $12k and go more than $25k for a really good ones. How many other Nissans now sell for 10 times their original price in Australia? I have seen them sell for upto A$65k in Japan.

                Was that the R380?
                No Zac, it wasn't. R380 was originally a Prince. IIRC it was a 2-litre twin cam 6 in a Lola Chassis. Some pix:

                http://www.users.bigpond.com/fairlady/R380a.jpg
                http://www.users.bigpond.com/fairlady/R380rear.jpg
                http://www.users.bigpond.com/fairlady/R380side.jpg
                http://www.users.bigpond.com/fairlady/R380dash.jpg
                If you dig a hole and it is in the wrong place, digging it deeper isn't going to help.

                Police warn that blow-up dolls are not recognised floatation devices.

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                  #53
                  Banzai, OK I thought the R380 had some vague 240z styling cues.
                  I read Prince even had an ex-Brabham chassis once too that the put a full body on, I will search for the information if you want.

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                    #54
                    Yay nearly all Isuzu cars made the list

                    I saw one of those 410 Bluebirds on ebay a while back for $400 starting bid and no bidders..
                    as short as possible

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by edo
                      gawd, if they drive like MGBs then they need lots of work
                      It's generally accepted, even by MGB owners, that the Fairlady, particularly the 2000, is faster in a straight line *and* around corners.
                      It's all about the Lawn Bowls Hat.

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                        #56
                        Banzai, can you give me some clues on what the engine is like in the fairlady/silvia? Is it a half decent thing? Can decent power be screwed out of it.
                        In case you were wondering, I dont know anything at all about them...dont even know if they are OHC or not...
                        http://www.larryscustomcycles.com.au

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                          #57
                          Edo, I'm sure it was for sale on the Ozdat Classifieds. It is going back a while so see you can get the moderators/owners to search the archives. It may, may not still be there.
                          The customer.

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                            #58
                            Edo you have a PM, may have found one.
                            The customer.

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                              #59
                              Banzai, can you give me some clues on what the engine is like in the fairlady/silvia? Is it a half decent thing? Can decent power be screwed out of it.
                              In case you were wondering, I dont know anything at all about them...dont even know if they are OHC or not...
                              Silvia and 1600 Fairlady are a pushrod motor. In stock form they put out 96hp at the flywheel which was good enough to give the car a top speed of 105mph (almost 170km/h). Without going up to a 2 litre H-series block you would be struggling to get more than 130hp out of it. I have seen a H-block car pushing about 175 hp.

                              2000 Fairlady is SOHC. In Aus spec it had 150hp at the fly and a top speed of 124mph (200km/h). 0 to 60mph took 8.8 secs and the standing quarter was 16.1 secs. That was faster than the V8 GT Falcon (1967/68). Thanks mostly to one mechanic in Melbourne (Lou Mondello), with not too much work you can get over 190hp out of it and still have a perfectly streetable car. By the time you get to 200hp (147kw) you need to be on Avgas or have an almost undriveable street car. Last time mine was dynoed it had 98.6kw at the rear wheels. The motor responds really well to an increase in compression. I'm taking mine for a run down Western Sydney Dragstrip this week to see how it goes. I can let you know.

                              The secret to the U20s power is the cylinder head. It was pretty similar to the later FIA heads for L-series Datsuns. The FIA U20 head was better again thanks to ports that were more of a straight line to the valves. Most engine builders look at a U20 head and say it won't work and all have been proved wrong. About the only improvement you can make to it is to fit slightly larger valves and cc the combustion chambers. I believe (but Nissan won't admit) that the U20 head was developed/copied from the Prince Skyline GT motor. Both are basically the same as Meredes Benz of the time (Prince was a licensed copy) and look remarkably similar. This was also the time that Nissan took over Prince.

                              In another thread on these forums someone pointed to a Hillclimb in Qld. I looked at last years results when three Datto 2000s were competing (in three different classes). Over 150 entrants and all of the dattos were in the top third outright. Best was about 20th outright (Jason Lea IIRC).

                              In the USA where they used to compete in a class with Porsche 911s, the top Datto teams regularly beat the German (and British and Italian) competition which really pissed Porsche off.

                              The Dattos annihilated all comers in Japanese sports car racing in the late 60s but were finally overtaken by Datsun Z432s which had better handling and more potential in the S20 motor.
                              If you dig a hole and it is in the wrong place, digging it deeper isn't going to help.

                              Police warn that blow-up dolls are not recognised floatation devices.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Banzai
                                2000 Fairlady is SOHC. In Aus spec it had 150hp at the fly and a top speed of 124mph (200km/h). 0 to 60mph took 8.8 secs and the standing quarter was 16.1 secs.
                                Banzai: What do they weigh? That power, 0-100, top speed and 1/4 mile are all pretty much identical to the figures for a 240Z.

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