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    #16
    I'm not a fan of Bowdens at all. I think their products are not as user friendly in combination with lackluster results compared to alternatives. As per above I do use AMMO products and am a fan but AUD and shipping is shit. I am also a big fan of P&S Beadmaker and its my go to these days as a drying aid and quick detailer. I do have a decent stock of AMMO spit and some hydrate there brand new that i'd sell if anyone wants to try some.
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      #17
      Originally posted by FLI355 View Post
      I'm not a fan of Bowdens at all. I think their products are not as user friendly in combination with lackluster results compared to alternatives. As per above I do use AMMO products and am a fan but AUD and shipping is shit. I am also a big fan of P&S Beadmaker and its my go to these days as a drying aid and quick detailer. I do have a decent stock of AMMO spit and some hydrate there brand new that i'd sell if anyone wants to try some.
      I'll take some off your hands mate.
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        #18
        Anyone use anything from the Carlack range? http://www.carlackproducts.com.au/

        Another forum I used to visit was always on how about good it was, boasting it was silicon free etc. The product was Carlack 68 http://www.carlackproducts.com.au/ca...e-polish-500ml

        They have some combo packs that I might be interested in if it is actually decent stuff.

        Would be interesting in some feedback if anyone has used it before.

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          #19
          3 big things i've changed since washing cars.

          Drying - Speed up and increase protection using a damp cloth and a drying aid (quick detailer) - the a wrung-out damp microfiber cloth/towel works out to be more absorbent, and introducing a mild lubricating detailer or drying aid actually adds protection and reduces water spots. I use bowdens boss gloss, i think autoglym also do one called aqua wax.

          https://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-hy...product-video2

          Pressure spray good - Foam bad - There is some evidence to suggest foam being counter-productive by shrinking window-seals, door rubbers and basically anything porous over time. something to do with the high levels of SLS foaming agents in foam which gets into these porous trims/seals

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76UHGYuqGSo

          No buckets - i've replaced buckets by spraying down the mitt with the pressure hose instead of rinsing in the bucket. I prepare 2 mitts with soap on them to use for top-half/bottom-half

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCweFOjv7wg

          Cheap cloths, replaced more often - I've found the best value cloths come from Costo, their big 36 pack of microfibers ($30 at costco, $37 on amazon) are very good quality/pile, Kmart also do a great drying-towel for $4 - i have the bowdens drying towel also, the Kmart one is fit-for-purpose and much more replaceable.

          https://www.amazon.com.au/Kirkland-S...52253580&psc=1

          https://www.kmart.com.au/product/sup...g-towel/747825

          Most of the propaganda comes from here - https://finalinspection.com.au/blogs...-bucket-method, i've been using it, works well for me as i now wash at a self-serve carwash instead of at home (costs $4 for 2 x 2min rounds of rinse), i bring my own mitts and wash in a spray bottle.
          Last edited by JGTC; 27-05-20, 05:33 PM.

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            #20
            ^ In regards to SLS and foam pre washes, the Bilt Hamber stuff is actually very low foaming and all their stuff is designed to be pH neutral and lots of their stuff contains anti-corrosives.

            I've got some of the Bowdens snow foam and Bilt Hamber Auto foam. There is no comparison, the Bowdens makes tons of foam but does fuck all compared to the BH.

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              #21
              Some real good advise there.. Once I've finished my current stock of Megs, I'll look at changing to something else.

              When applying Polish, Wax by hand, are the round applicator foam pads the way to go? And Buffing/Polishing towels to finish? Seems to be heaps of different cloths, Towels for different applications.

              I might give the 303 a go for the dash and Door trims. Just use a Microfibre cloth with it?

              The Bissell seems to have disappeared from SCA as someone else mentioned. I did manage a screen-shot the other day.

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              Oh, another thing... My Daily 2015 VW Polo (Grey), spends most of it's time outdoors. Is there different products I should use, or simply Polish/Wax more often?

              I was told that good old Nu Finish was good enough?

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              Last edited by milo; 27-05-20, 08:37 PM.
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                #22
                Originally posted by milo View Post

                I might give the 303 a go for the dash and Door trims. Just use a Microfibre cloth with it?
                Depends what I'm using it on. Lately I've just been using rags because I'm too lazy to wash my microfiber towels. Spray a bit on the rag, wipe over plastics. Same with tyres.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by schnitzelburger View Post
                  i fucking hate amour all fuck that greasy ass shit

                  i used to have a meguiars interior protectant that looked like jizz but smelled like bubble gum. it gave the same look with no greasiness but they dont make it anymore. cue me standing around the auto store cracking bottletops and sniffing product nothing sus.
                  Give "Mothers Protectant" the sniff test, sounds like the same stuff to me:
                  https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...=en_AU&start=2
                  Anyone use anything from the Carlack range? http://www.carlackproducts.com.au/

                  Another forum I used to visit was always on how about good it was, boasting it was silicon free etc. The product was Carlack 68 http://www.carlackproducts.com.au/ca...e-polish-500ml
                  Oldholden.com right? I started using it after reading about it on there years ago. For outright shine and longevity there would be better stuff out there but for the low effort required to buff it on/off it does pretty well. It's really meant to be used as a final sealer I believe but I just throw it on anything as long as it's clean, glass and chrome too.

                  Bought one of those Bissell machines last year, I reckon its great. The dirtier it is the more passes it needs which can be time consuming but the amount of dirt it pulls out of even clean looking cloth seats is incredible. I use watered down Simple Green concentrate from bunnings in it now, does the job and way cheaper than the Bissel stuff.
                  Last edited by SRV; 28-05-20, 03:46 AM.

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                    #24
                    found it by searching the word "shampooer" hehe pooer

                    https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...er/384355.html

                    Originally posted by SRV View Post
                    Give "Mothers Protectant" the sniff test, sounds like the same stuff to me:
                    https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...=en_AU&start=2
                    cheers SRV
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by schnitzelburger View Post
                      found it by searching the word "shampooer" hehe pooer

                      https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...er/384355.html

                      cheers SRV
                      Yeah thats the one I have. Actually it's come back when you search for Bissell. Definitely wasn't here yesterday - there was only 6 hits but now there's 7.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by milo View Post
                        Oh, another thing... My Daily 2015 VW Polo (Grey), spends most of it's time outdoors. Is there different products I should use, or simply Polish/Wax more often?

                        I was told that good old Nu Finish was good enough?
                        That's just a polish, isn't it? That won't be giving you any protection, you need to wax it.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by JGTC View Post
                          Drying - Speed up and increase protection using a damp cloth and a drying aid (quick detailer) - the a wrung-out damp microfiber cloth/towel works out to be more absorbent, and introducing a mild lubricating detailer or drying aid actually adds protection and reduces water spots. I use bowdens boss gloss, i think autoglym also do one called aqua wax.
                          I'm not following this (bit thick today) - so you're using a microfibre drying towel, but spraying Boss Gloss or similar as you go? Onto the wet areas or after a first pass to dry off most of the water?

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                            #28
                            I spray some Boss Gloss on the drying towel (4 sprays or so each side) then start drying, for a big car like the Family Truckster Kluger I give it a few more sprays halfway through.
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Captain_Slow View Post

                              That's just a polish, isn't it? That won't be giving you any protection, you need to wax it.
                              wax isn't really protection, it's organic so doesn't last long - does improve gloss/depth though, and people go crazy with multi layered soft/hard wax.

                              +1 for the Bissell, an awesome bit of kit for carpets

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                                #30
                                No all good, it is a weird concept, the idea is a damp microfiber is more absorbent than a dry one (the dry repels water rather than sucks it in)

                                1. soak and wring out the towel as much as possible (towel is now damp)

                                2. spray some drying aid / quick detailer onto the towel and start drying the car down - the streaks that the drying aid leaves behind add protection and don't leave watermarks when it dries.

                                3. as water accumulates in the towel, wring out and continue drying.

                                4. top up the quick detailer as you go around drying the car

                                This vid was where i got the idea from starts at 5:40

                                https://youtu.be/w0hzJImmvNU?t=340

                                Originally posted by Captain_Slow View Post

                                I'm not following this (bit thick today) - so you're using a microfibre drying towel, but spraying Boss Gloss or similar as you go? Onto the wet areas or after a first pass to dry off most of the water?
                                Last edited by JGTC; 28-05-20, 05:20 PM.

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