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    #31
    Originally posted by JGTC View Post
    No all good, it is a weird concept, the idea is a damp microfiber is more absorbent than a dry one (the dry repels water rather than sucks it in)

    1. soak and wring out the towel as much as possible (towel is now damp)

    2. spray some drying aid / quick detailer onto the towel and start drying the car down - the streaks that the drying aid leaves behind add protection and don't leave watermarks when it dries.

    3. as water accumulates in the towel, wring out and continue drying.

    4. top up the quick detailer as you go around drying the car

    This vid was where i got the idea from starts at 5:40

    https://youtu.be/w0hzJImmvNU?t=340

    This is how I do it as well.
    Also got the tip from Larry at Ammo NYC.
    I even bought a few bottles of Ammo Hydrate.

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      #32
      Originally posted by SRV View Post
      Oldholden.com right? I started using it after reading about it on there years ago. For outright shine and longevity there would be better stuff out there but for the low effort required to buff it on/off it does pretty well. It's really meant to be used as a final sealer I believe but I just throw it on anything as long as it's clean, glass and chrome too.
      Yeah that would be the one. What better stuff would be out there? Also is it worth chasing something that is silicon free?

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        #33
        https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/q...YaAtUEEALw_wcB

        this isnt cheap, but by far the best drying towel ive used.
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          #34
          I like Bowden's but find they have too many products in their range so I keep it simple.

          - Nanolicious to wash
          - After Glow after each couple of washes - although I find it can be hard to buff off without leaving streaking. I was using Boss Gloss and prefer it as its easier to use and provides a better finish, but offers no protection.
          - Lazy wax every now and then.
          - I've used Three Way to strip the waxes, etc.

          I had bad water marks on my car when I bought it and used multi products to remove it. Meguires had a good product (recommend on PF) but a Carpro one was better / more aggressive.


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            #35
            Originally posted by 080GMH View Post

            Yeah that would be the one. What better stuff would be out there? Also is it worth chasing something that is silicon free?
            By better stuff I really mean a proper waxing with some decent carnuba product would produce a deeper shine and last longer than the Carlack 68 in my opinion. Can't say much about the silicon free thing, it's so it can be used in a paint shop/panel beaters or other paint prep environment without causing contamination is all I know.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Nugs View Post

              This is how I do it as well.
              Also got the tip from Larry at Ammo NYC.
              I even bought a few bottles of Ammo Hydrate.
              In for group buy on Ammo Hydrate, in other forums they 2 that come up as close alternatives are Meguiars d156 and Duragloss 951 Aquawax, I mainly use boss gloss and autoglym aquawax because they go on sale and can be bought in store.

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                #37
                My 2 cents
                I like Bowdens gear - easily accessible (there are plenty of online sellers of all diff brands - but then add in freight and convenience.....), reasonably priced (and nearly always on sale), HOWEVER - their gear is aimed at the average joe. Their clay bars, paint and interior cleaners etc are very very light (I guess to avoid the regular punter that doesnt understand some technique etc.) Agree that they are starting to get too many products that overlap - but the thing here, is to look at what suits your needs - and you are then happy with.

                I dont really get the whole foaming/pressrure washer etc, so I just go for a Bowdens wheely clean (fucking euro brake pads), then nanowash with one of their wash mits, and a single bucket !!! (not the 14 bucket method or whatever it is this week) - just dont put the mit down into the bottom of the bucket, start at the top of the car and work down (least dirty to most dirty sections). - wheels last with an old worn out mit
                Dry - microfibre and drying aid. (still undecided if it makes much difference).
                Interior - Bowdens gear again, is very light on here, I use P&S (same guys that make bead maker) - their interior cleaner, and then on leather finish off with bowdens, or on cloth, dash etc - just the P&S interior cleaner.
                Paint correction - DA polisher, a selection of foam (I like the recent meguiars thin foam pads - repco now stock them) or microfibre pads and some compounds (have a couple of different ones - either poorboys, or Juice (another aus company).
                Sealant - had generally put down a wax or similar, but have moved onto trying Turtle wax seal &shine, P&S bead maker, and now Bowdens Bead Machine - each of them seem very good, but my current pick is the bead machine - car is outside 24/7 and so far (product has only been out a couple of months), it is lasting longer than the others. The nopics car is always garaged and the P&S Bead maker has lasted really well on it. Tried the bowdens wet dreams sealant, and it just didnt last on my car thats outside - within a week or 2 it was gone.

                Basically - for the general stuff, Bowdens is great (and if you need to, you can always contact them for feedback or advice). Once you need to have some more grunt, you need to go to some more specialised stuff.
                Shit - go back 15-20 yrs, you basically had a couple of brands - meguiars, turtle wax and armour all - and basically a wash, polish and a wax, and you used a sponge and a chamois. Dont get carried away, paint quality has gotten better over the years, not worse. There are some good products - but some very very good marketing trying to work on our OCD!!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by vs355 View Post
                  Basically - for the general stuff, Bowdens is great (and if you need to, you can always contact them for feedback or advice).
                  This is certainly true. Club VF seems to like the Bowdens gear a lot, so I popped up on there one day complaining about how useless one of their products was. Bowdens bloke gets in touch within a few minutes and basically sorted it out (I was doing it wrong). I agree they don't make the best or fanciest stuff, but I do use their gear for basic things - easily available and supporting an Aussie company.

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                    #39
                    Any tips on the Bowdens wheel spray? Seems to be leaving a stain on black powdercoated wheels?
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                      #40
                      I've been into detailing my own stuff for about 15 years now. It's a curse when you're OCD about how clean your car needs to be. I've spend way too much money on detailing products especially the latest and greatest products that are a "must buy" that turn out to be distinctly average.

                      These days:

                      Prewash - no snowfoam just Bilt Hamber autofoam sprayed on in a sprayer (can be sprayed on or snowfoamed)

                      Wash: Bilt Hamber auto wash. 1 bucket method with multiple wash mitts. I don't buy into the whole 2 bucket method. Grit guards etc. only go so far, you're still dunking your still somewhat dirty mitt into somewhat dirty water. One bucket, multiple mitts, when each mitt has cleaned a panel / 2 panels it gets put to the side. No cross contamination.

                      Drying - I have loads of towels. The best I've ever used is my current one I bought from the UK - In2Detailing dual twisted pile drying towel. Lots of these types of dual pile twisted drying towel doing the rounds, and I've found them fantastic.

                      Quick detailer - Optimum No Rinse (ONR) cheap and makes up loads from concentrate.

                      Wheels - Bilt Hamber Auto foam / Surfex HD mix. Brings them up real good. Also use Carpro Iron X the odd time for fallout / brake dust removal

                      Tyres - Clean every few washes with Gyeon Q2M Tire (yes, tire). It really does get loads of extra grime off the tyres compared to normal APC. Tyre dressing is Gyeon Q2 Tire.

                      Leather interior - Dr. Leather interior wipes / spray

                      Bissell spot cleaner for the carpets.

                      Interior - Meguires ultimate Interior detailer is what I'm using at the moment. There's loads out there.

                      Glass - 50:50 vinegar / water and a glass cloth. Autoglym fast glass is also pretty good.

                      On the odd occasion I do a full detail I also use Carpro Iron X for fallout removal, Bilt Hamber clay bar, DA polisher with Menzerna polishes (or Scholl), 50:50 water / IPA mix for cleaning polish oils off, sealant Menzerna Powerlock (I'm sure there's better sealants out there these days).


                      I sometimes wish I just had a bucket and wash mitt and was ignorant to detailing.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Nugs View Post
                        This is how I do it as well.
                        Also got the tip from Larry at Ammo NYC.
                        I even bought a few bottles of Ammo Hydrate.
                        I love his channel and tips.

                        What are his products like? Would like to try his interior cleaner.

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                          #42
                          His products are very good. Especially MUD, HYDRATE and SPIT
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Gussy View Post
                            Wheels - Bilt Hamber Auto foam / Surfex HD mix. Brings them up real good. Also use Carpro Iron X the odd time for fallout / brake dust removal



                            On the odd occasion I do a full detail I also use Carpro Iron X for fallout removal, Bilt Hamber clay bar, DA polisher with Menzerna polishes (or Scholl), 50:50 water / IPA mix for cleaning polish oils off, sealant Menzerna Powerlock (I'm sure there's better sealants out there these days).


                            I sometimes wish I just had a bucket and wash mitt and was ignorant to detailing.
                            Since it sounds like your another Bilt Hamber fan I recommend the Korrosol for paint fallout remover and also works on wheels as good as any of the wheel cleaners I've tried.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Luke352 View Post

                              Since it sounds like your another Bilt Hamber fan I recommend the Korrosol for paint fallout remover and also works on wheels as good as any of the wheel cleaners I've tried.
                              Cheers, will keep it in mind!

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                                #45
                                The Bissell is down to $180 at the moment.

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