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    Originally posted by Shane001 View Post

    You had to continue to qualify to receive the payments. Pre July it was a forward estimate of turnover, if you had reasonable expectation of the downturn you could claim it, if the expectation didn't result in as much downturn as expected you weren't required to repay it. From July qualification went off actual turnover as part of your BAS returns, so there was no way to fudge it, unless you were fudging your actual tax returns.

    Maintaining the employees you were receiving payments for though is one area the ATO could check up on and apply penalties. Guaranteed there were plenty out there claiming for employees that no longer existed... Though with STP now that would be more difficult.
    I reread the ATO site and it is an estimate, that is fucked.
    Last edited by TROLLA; 05-03-21, 03:30 PM.
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      Originally posted by PLAYA View Post

      I reread the ATO site and it is an estimate, that is fucked.
      Yep, and there were so many ways to rort it if you were that way inclined, as per the posts above.

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        But Australia is built on small businesses......oh wait
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        Dave, have you uploaded the data from the carby?
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          Originally posted by Aaron View Post
          Yeah I know plenty of small/micro businesses (aka sole traders and the like) who jumped onboard every possible avenues for GovCo money only to not experience any downturn other than a bit of a wobble that was already happening early last year.

          They’re using invoiced (Cc and Bank transfer) work to mask the income and holding the cash payments back and in turn paying for toys and stuff with cash. Declare a bit of the cash etc

          you’d think it’s too much effort, but it pays pretty good considering an extra hour a week cooking the books.
          Speak top your local mechanic for a cash job if its not a warranty job

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            I'm amazed by my small business friends that have gotten through the pandemic who should have been absolutely ravaged here in Melbourne. Instead they've shown resilience and doubled down the handout money on C63's and Range Rovers.

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              A low-mileage 1979 Toyota Corolla has sold at auction for twice its original purchase price, with the virtual hammer falling on a final bid of $12,750.




              https://www.caradvice.com.au/931145/...G9qD3ITTJkeCLI

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                Who said cars aren’t an investment - double your money in just 42 years!

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                  Im surprised it didnt sell for more, to be honest.

                  Looks very tidy

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                    Originally posted by Shane001 View Post

                    Yep, and there were so many ways to rort it if you were that way inclined, as per the posts above.
                    Be interesting to see if the ATO harnesses all the EFT data given most small businesses (eg cafes) stopped accepting cash
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                      Interesting tangent to this thread in some clickbait that appeared in Chrome on the iPad on the weekend ... new sales are down in the UK, to the point where they're having a temporary shutdown of the Vauxhall plant in some English city or area I've heard of but which I've forgotten since reading the article.
                      Seems to be the opposite of here, even when lock-downs were in place ... ?
                      Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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                        That's because no one wants a fucking vectra.

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                          Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
                          Interesting tangent to this thread in some clickbait that appeared in Chrome on the iPad on the weekend ... new sales are down in the UK, to the point where they're having a temporary shutdown of the Vauxhall plant in some English city or area I've heard of but which I've forgotten since reading the article.
                          Seems to be the opposite of here, even when lock-downs were in place ... ?
                          Australian economy contracted about 1% in 2020, UK is in the ballpark of 8%. To put that 8% contraction in context the early 90’s recession in Australia was a contraction of 1.7%. The difference in economic outcomes between the two countries are about as vast as the difference in the health income.

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                            Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
                            Interesting tangent to this thread in some clickbait that appeared in Chrome on the iPad on the weekend ... new sales are down in the UK, to the point where they're having a temporary shutdown of the Vauxhall plant in some English city or area I've heard of but which I've forgotten since reading the article.
                            Seems to be the opposite of here, even when lock-downs were in place ... ?
                            If you, your family and friends are all dying, then you sorta don't give a fuck about buying a new car.
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                              Originally posted by IMOA View Post

                              Australian economy contracted about 1% in 2020, UK is in the ballpark of 8%. To put that 8% contraction in context the early 90’s recession in Australia was a contraction of 1.7%. The difference in economic outcomes between the two countries are about as vast as the difference in the health income.
                              Australia has come out looking pretty rosy. Unemployment went up, but is already trending down (including in the more important perm FT workers) and the overall increase was actually pretty marginal.

                              For the UK on the other hand, the combination of Brexit and COVID has hit hard. It doesn't help that they have been forced to take months worth of lockdowns (with still a month left to go) and lost tens of thousands of people. Not surprised at all the car market has plummeted.

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                                They also made a complete fucking mess of lockdowns etc, no one wants to buy a new car when you’re over lockdowns, brexit has been a disaster and your PM is a numpty that looks like a homeless bum in a suit.
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                                Sorry, am late to this thread. I have been protesting against whitey oppressors all morning with my people. I shall serenade this thread with my didge until nash comes in and puts it all into perspective.

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