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    #46
    I drive a 99 corolla Levin. Apart from a few rattles and random noises, it's a killer little car that gets 550-600km from a tank and has ice cold aircon



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    Originally posted by 50RTD
    Dave, have you uploaded the data from the carby?

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      #47
      Originally posted by gmr View Post
      Money would be better spent on better driver training surely. Less shit drivers > shit cars, especially as described above their not going to be buying a new car with what govco pays for the clunker.
      This doesn't work, because nobody has come up with a way to train drivers to have an attitude other than what society has taught them to have ever since they've been able to observe others on the road.
      It will take a lot of training to change how drivers approach driving, to make them actually give a shit rather than toodling around oblivious except when they're in a bit of a hurry - when they get disproportonately pissed-off as they road-rage all the others that are driving like they usually do themselves.
      You can teach car-control, yeah, but that makes no measurable difference unless someone's spending their whole life drifting around the roads.
      Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
        This doesn't work, because nobody has come up with a way to train drivers to have an attitude other than what society has taught them to have ever since they've been able to observe others on the road.
        It will take a lot of training to change how drivers approach driving, to make them actually give a shit rather than toodling around oblivious except when they're in a bit of a hurry - when they get disproportonately pissed-off as they road-rage all the others that are driving like they usually do themselves.
        You can teach car-control, yeah, but that makes no measurable difference unless someone's spending their whole life drifting around the roads.
        I did a defensive driving course maybe 5 years after getting my full licence. The 3x take aways I got out of it were:

        - Vary your view point i.e. don't look at the car ahead of you, look beyond it and look through corners so you can see issues earlier.
        - Leave 2-3 seconds between the car in front.
        - Emergency braking in the wet and how much this affects stopping distance compared to dry.

        I can only talk for NSW, but at the time the L and P plates licencing taught none of this. Doing the course changed my attitude on the road.

        I still reckon subsidising a similar defensive driving course will do waaaaay more than cash for clunkers and not being in an accident should be the first priority no?

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          #49
          It didn't change your attitude, it gave you skills which you then applied due to your attitude - as an enthusiast.
          The vast majority, when told to look further ahead than at the tail-lights of the car in front, or when told not to have their window half-down because first-responders to crashes don't like seeing people's heads chopped in half, just ignore it as annoying inconveniences being bleated about by whiny people.

          Segue - you really weren't taught to leave 2-3 seconds? Wow, that's pretty bad!
          Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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            #50
            Originally posted by gmr View Post

            I did a defensive driving course maybe 5 years after getting my full licence. The 3x take aways I got out of it were:

            - Vary your view point i.e. don't look at the car ahead of you, look beyond it and look through corners so you can see issues earlier.
            - Leave 2-3 seconds between the car in front.
            - Emergency braking in the wet and how much this affects stopping distance compared to dry.

            I can only talk for NSW, but at the time the L and P plates licencing taught none of this. Doing the course changed my attitude on the road.

            I still reckon subsidising a similar defensive driving course will do waaaaay more than cash for clunkers and not being in an accident should be the first priority no?
            Driver attitude training should be mandatory for certain infringements.

            Following at an unsafe distance, failing to keep to the left most lane etc etc.
            Jason Broadhurst

            Someone once asked me if they could use my mower. I said "sure, so long as it doesn't leave my yard"

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              #51
              They should absolutely be testing people's merging ability, especially at onramps.
              Originally posted by myshortyboomba
              I've had many gauges in cars. I always found the conrods react faster than a gauge.

              you can always hear them when they break and they stop the engine immediately so you can't do any more damage.

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                #52
                Wouldn't it be easier to just crank the rego/road tax up, making older cars less desirable to own, unless you reaalllly wanted one?

                Originally posted by brewdles
                In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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                  #53
                  as long as it didn't apply to club rego, maybe. Having said that, our 10 y.o. Volvo would still be one of the safer cars on the road.
                  .... because every driver experiences the destructive potential of the effortless surge of power available through the smallest of body movements.

                  Dr Hoon
                  .

                  DrNick is king!!!! No, Mark Webber is now! Long live the king!... hold on a minute mate, Ricci is in charge now

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                    #54
                    Or you can't afford a newer car. I would imagine a lot of people driving shitboxes wouldn't be driving said shitbox if they could afford something nicer.
                    Originally posted by ahabthearab
                    If you're in Amsterdam why the fuck are you even conscious and not in a drug fueled haze bent over with some crackhore hooker jamming a giant black didldo up your arse?

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Bob Vegana. View Post
                      Wouldn't it be easier to just crank the rego/road tax up, making older cars less desirable to own, unless you reaalllly wanted one?
                      This is basically Japan's approach isn't it? Seems to work for them.
                      Norbie!

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                        #56
                        Another poorly thought out initiative by some Karen or overpaid consultant with the media people dropping it ‘on all the socials’ which will result in sfa actually going to plan and no long lasting changes.

                        They’d be better off doing more targeted road upgrades, teaching road craft (how about driving lessons for young people on how to tow a trailer?) or mandatory how not to be an arsehole on a scooter for gig economy food delivery riders.

                        I have a 94 Magna as my station car that costs SFA to keep barely running. Since Vicpol did precisely sweet fuck all the last time I had something decent get stolen, why get rid of it for something ‘better’ and risk car park damage or theft to my station hack?

                        Gov’s usually pull initiatives like this to support the local car industry... oh wait.
                        Originally posted by Stix Z
                        i'm upset i lost that video of that aboriginal woman taking a dump on a train that was on youtube
                        Originally posted by Jim
                        Sorry, am late to this thread. I have been protesting against whitey oppressors all morning with my people. I shall serenade this thread with my didge until nash comes in and puts it all into perspective.

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                          #57




                          Typical government bullshit. Don't fix the problem of the numpties crashing in the first place and make the roads safer for everyone by increasing driver training. Just offer a band aid solution for a small percentage of the population, likely in areas Labor are looking for votes.

                          Put a stop to people only learning how to pass a test and increase the general population's ability to handle a car in the wet/low light/on country or gravel roads, and how to pay attention for longer than 5 minute bursts when driving, particularly at 110km/h.

                          The old cars getting crushed is collateral damage to most, only car enthusiasts are worried about losing automotive history.
                          Last edited by RMX; 14-01-21, 11:20 AM.
                          Originally posted by Mudkicker
                          How many blowjobs to pay off that debt?

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                            #58
                            How driving is not part of the high school curriculum is beyond me.
                            .... because every driver experiences the destructive potential of the effortless surge of power available through the smallest of body movements.

                            Dr Hoon
                            .

                            DrNick is king!!!! No, Mark Webber is now! Long live the king!... hold on a minute mate, Ricci is in charge now

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
                              It didn't change your attitude, it gave you skills which you then applied due to your attitude - as an enthusiast.
                              The vast majority, when told to look further ahead than at the tail-lights of the car in front, or when told not to have their window half-down because first-responders to crashes don't like seeing people's heads chopped in half, just ignore it as annoying inconveniences being bleated about by whiny people.

                              Segue - you really weren't taught to leave 2-3 seconds? Wow, that's pretty bad!
                              I've no way of knowing if any of the non-enthusiast car people changed their attitudes afterward, but there were a lot of non car people car there and feedback and the end of it was they understood and had got something from it.

                              Doing the training is still better than nothing, and better than throwing money and old clunkers only for another old clunker to be bought I think.

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                                #60
                                Nastysven, because of folks like captiva fan, who blame the wrong things. sadly those types of people run the country.
                                I'M NOT A HOOKER BUT 20 BUCKS IS 20 BUCKS...

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