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    Sandown Gonskis

    Noise restrictions won't be an issue if there's no track.


    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/...16-p57b2p.html

    Dandenong Council is warning that Melbourne Racing Club’s plan to end horse racing at Sandown and redevelop the sprawling racetrack into a new suburb the size of Wangaratta may create traffic congestion and cram in too much housing.

    The racing club wants to rezone the 112-hectare site in Melbourne’s south-east from “special use” to housing so it can sell the land for a far higher price. The money would then be poured back into its $300 million redevelopment of Caulfield racecourse.

    Springvale resident Zoe Mohl, outside Sandown Racecourse, says the number of houses planned on the site is “extreme”.CREDIT:EDDIE JIM

    However, Dandenong mayor Angela Long said the lack of sporting stadiums in Melbourne’s south-east was among the reasons horse racing should stay at Sandown.

    “I am a little bit disappointed that the MRC are doing this,” she said.

    “I would prefer it stay as a sporting venue, whether it’s horse racing or car racing – we’ve got no big stadiums out this way.”

    There has been a racing track on the land since 1888 and it has been both a horse racetrack and motor raceway in its current form since the 1960s. The grandstand at the racetrack, built in 1962 for the motor racing circuit, was heritage listed in 2019.

    The Melbourne Racing Club wants to rezone its Sandown racecourse and sell it for housing.CREDIT:JOE ARMAO

    The racing club approached the council about rezoning the land more than two years ago. The MRC has now drafted a formal rezoning plan and will brief Dandenong’s 11 councillors on it on April 16.

    The plan proposes 7500 new homes being built on the sprawling site, divided by the small Mile Creek, which takes up about 10 per cent of the land to be developed, while about 10 per cent of the land would be set aside for parkland.
    Cr Long said the loss of Sandown as a sporting venue, on top of the closure in 1999 of VFL Park in Waverley – now a training venue for Hawthorn and surrounded by housing – would be a blow to residents of Melbourne’s south-east.

    “Now they’re getting rid of Sandown. We’ve got to travel to Melbourne or the other side of Melbourne to other venues and that’s a shame because out this way it’s a growing population.”

    She said developing the land was “a golden opportunity for housing, but how dense that housing is, that’s what we’re going to be worried about”.

    The Melbourne Racing Club declined to comment on the rezoning plan.

    Zoe Mohl, a Springvale resident who lives near the track, said horse racing was not a problem, but she complained about the car racing.

    “It’s not like a constant thing, but when it’s on, it’s loud. I’m within one kilometre as the crow flies, but you can hear it as if it’s just down the street.”

    She said the scale of what was planned would overwhelm the site, even though it was very large.

    “The scale they are planning, it’s extreme. We’ll go from having it an empty racecourse now to it being loaded with people.

    “If they could cut it in half of the size they are proposing, it would be reasonable. I think they just see the price tag on what they can sell.”

    Ms Mohl said it was great housing would be built on the site, because urban sprawl was not ideal: “It’s better to build up rather than out, and people need somewhere to live.”
    Sandown Racecourse.CREDIT:EDDIE JIM

    However, she found the number of new houses “a bit shocking”.

    Dandenong Council city planning director Jody Bosman, who is highly supportive of the development, said he anticipated the rezoning plan from the club would be formally handed to the council by the middle of the year.

    Before then, a workshop is scheduled for mid-April when the MRC and development consultant Urbis, one of the country’s biggest urban planners, would meet with councillors.

    “A formal report could possibly be tabled in May or June 2021,” Mr Bosman said. Under state planning rules, the racing club will work up a formal proposal and then work with the council on a plan that would ultimately be signed off on by the planning minister.

    Dandenong councillor Rhonda Garad said she worried that developing Sandown would cause immense problems for locals.

    “I’m concerned the Princes Highway will become a car park and the surrounding areas very congested with the number of cars coming out of this site.”

    The Greens councillor said infrastructure such as new schools and bus routes often lagged years behind. She said in her ward of Keysborough South “it took 20 years to get a primary school”.

    While the venue is regarded as one of the Victorian racing industry’s greatest assets, former racing commentator Bryan Martin, who as a 15-year-old was one of 58,000 who attended the first Sandown race meeting in 1965, said it was only a matter of time before the course joined the likes of Mordialloc, Epsom, Aspendale and Mentone racetracks in extinction.

    “I don’t think it’s got a future, sadly, but it will be very sad to see it go because it’s a great workhorse for the industry,” Martin said.

    “To be fair, crowds over the last 20 years haven’t warmed to going back there … and the amenities have gone to rack and ruin, but that’s a commercial decision to be made, [whether] to keep spending money when no one turns up. It’s sad.”

    Racing began there in 1888, when the privately owned track known as Oakleigh Park Racecourse opened. Horses raced there until the 1930s when it was shut along with several other metropolitan racecourses.

    Motor racing reopened there in 1962 and horses in 1965, and since then both tracks have played host to annual races such as the Sandown 500 for Supercars and the Zipping Classic at the end of the Melbourne spring carnival.

    The MRC announced in May 2019 it had undertaken a strategic review of its land holdings, but the council has been working with the racing club for more than two years on the rezoning proposal.

    While the club says on its website that racing activities at Sandown will remain for the foreseeable future, a sale of Sandown would help the club achieve its $300 million transformation of Caulfield Racecourse. That project includes the addition of a new inner racetrack under lights to accommodate night racing.

    Speaking on Racing.com last week, Melbourne Racing Club chief executive Josh Blanksby said Sandown was a financial black hole, losing the club $5 million a year.

    “It’s a costly venue for the Melbourne Racing Club to operate,” he said.

    “It takes on a lot of the race meetings for the industry and that’s fantastic for wagering and for horse preparation and for metro prizemoney, but the Melbourne Racing Club is the one that wears that cost.”

    Mr Blanksby said the process to rezone Sandown would allow the club “to understand the possibilities”.

    “We’re still going through that process,” he said. “We announced it was going to be years not months and that’s proving to be the case, dealing with the local council there as we go through all the matters, dealing with the planning office at a state level and also dealing with Racing Victoria, who have been very transparent in helping us with the process.”

    #2
    Very sad news if this manages to get off the ground

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      #3
      As if it's not already been rubber stamped.

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        #4
        Doesn't sound like the author gives many fucks about motorsport.. zero mention of lack of racetracks or quotes from motorsport stakeholders.

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          #5
          Would be sad to see the track disappear but it’s been living on borrowed time for some years now. If it wasn’t for the horse racing track in the same complex then it probably would’ve disappeared already.

          I’m still trying to picture fitting 7500 houses into that piece of land though. Seems pretty crammed in.
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            #6
            if the site is 112 hectares and they are proposing 10% to become some creek & another 10% to be parklands, that leaves 89.6 hectares or 896,000 sq mt for 7500 homes, 119sq mt of land for each home and that isn't taken into account any roads into or out of the estate.

            Residents complained for years about the noise from the racing there, I wonder how that's worked out for them now that it will be a worksite for at least a few years and put at least another 5000 cars into their local area.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Vh308 View Post
              if the site is 112 hectares and they are proposing 10% to become some creek & another 10% to be parklands, that leaves 89.6 hectares or 896,000 sq mt for 7500 homes, 119sq mt of land for each home and that isn't taken into account any roads into or out of the estate.

              Residents complained for years about the noise from the racing there, I wonder how that's worked out for them now that it will be a worksite for at least a few years and put at least another 5000 cars into their local area.
              I use to live just the other side of the train tracks growing up, most car events you would just hear, however when V8 supercars rolled in you could hear that from a good 10km+ away. so I could understand the noise if you lived close to that event. you could not watch TV etc due to how noisy it all was. but hey, you also moved next to a race track.

              also remember it states 7500 new homes, this does not have to mean houses and could mean apartments and or townhouses. if you look at the surrounding area a lot of apartments have been going up from Oakleigh to Springvale so I would not be surprised if more are added. also include the old bunnings across the road has had a revamp to include multiple shops etc.
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                #8
                Hm. Should go down for a track day before it goes then.
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                  #9
                  This has been on the cards for ~10 years, so I am not in the least bit surprised.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vh308 View Post
                    if the site is 112 hectares and they are proposing 10% to become some creek & another 10% to be parklands, that leaves 89.6 hectares or 896,000 sq mt for 7500 homes, 119sq mt of land for each home and that isn't taken into account any roads into or out of the estate.

                    Residents complained for years about the noise from the racing there, I wonder how that's worked out for them now that it will be a worksite for at least a few years and put at least another 5000 cars into their local area.
                    oh yeah - cop that you whingy cunts
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                      #11
                      This will suck. So close for us to use as testing regularly

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                        #12
                        Walking distance to the station, easy access to the highway, heritage listing the grandstand.

                        It's demise is inevitable. Sad, but inevitable.

                        Hopefully it increases the likelihood of the pakenham track being built.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chartreusehj View Post
                          Hopefully it increases the likelihood of the pakenham track being built.
                          Last I heard it was all done and dusted, just waiting for earthworks to begin?

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                            #14
                            I know. I could walk there in about 3 minutes if I visit the family but until it's built I'll stay sceptical that it will end up what is planned.

                            Hoping it does though. I'll be parking a car in the shed and driving in and out, if its broke, I'll tow it back with the tractor haha.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sssgtr View Post

                              Last I heard it was all done and dusted, just waiting for earthworks to begin?
                              can’t find any recent info easily on the net. Any links?

                              if Cardinia gets built to plan, I don’t think we’ll miss Sandown that much.

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