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    #31
    V10 has twice the problems of the R5. Basically the same architecture. Bulk torque though.
    Originally posted by brewdles
    In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Spammy View Post
      Buy an Odyssey or a Prado and enjoy life.
      The odyssey reminds of how our old mazda MPV used to drive so no.

      Prado can't even fit a pram in the back with the third row up - which pisses us off no end as we would just buy one if it had usuable space in the back.

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        #33
        Have you checked whether the two vehicles of this thread will fit a pram back there?
        Toyota's packaging has been known to be shit in the past (I had a cavernous Tarago as a company-car for a year & they'd had to work pretty hard to make that so un-adjustable), but the Prado's physically longer than these two innit?
        Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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          #34
          Q7 is about 5x the size of the prado in the boot (we have seen 2 so far a 2009 and 2010 model) and by reports the xc90 is bigger still so yes we have checked this aspect out. Everytime I rethink the prado, we see the measly boot that's about 10-20cms deep with the 3rd row in use - plus the swing tailgate, etc,etc..its just shit as a 7 seater for young kids.

          It's looking like the nopics favours the cx-9 over these at the moment anyway as I think someone she knows bought a q7 from a dealer and it had a total engine failure.

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            #35
            CX-9's look to be relatively good value compared to CX-5's at least, when I was brwosing around at the cost of CX-3's & CX-30's for my mum, it seemed like the asks for CX-9's were only $1k-$2k above those of CX-5's.
            Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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              #36
              I have a 2018 CX9 with 40k kms on it now. Still drives great. Not sure on longevity compared to a Euro though. But hey, it's worth 10k more than what i paid for it in Jan 20!

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                #37
                Q7 won't fit anything bigger than a $20 umbrella stroller in the back, with the third row in use.

                However, what you can do is only flip half of the third row up, and still have reasonable boot space. Also worth noting is third row access is via the drivers side.
                Originally posted by brewdles
                In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Captiva Fan View Post
                  Have you checked whether the two vehicles of this thread will fit a pram back there?
                  Toyota's packaging has been known to be shit in the past (I had a cavernous Tarago as a company-car for a year & they'd had to work pretty hard to make that so un-adjustable), but the Prado's physically longer than these two innit?
                  Prado really isn't that big, short, narrow but tall.
                  Remember it's 200mm longer on paper than in reality because of the spare tyre on the tailgate.

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                    #39
                    Our 2010 XC90 3.2 petrol hit 260? maybe 270km with normal maintenance and tyres every 20-25k, it was really hard on them. Did 12-13L/100km around town and I got it down to 9.9/10 on the highway. It was an R-Design so had comfy seats etc but it was dated - I don't think the interior changed much from 2003 when they were released. Did 3 kids and 2 small dogs reasonably well, we would fold one seat in the middle row down and one in the rear and had enough for a compact double pram. At a squeeze we could have all the seats up and double pram in the boot but was not viable for long trips. The lower tailgate folds down which makes it handy when dealing with young kids out and about

                    Was a good family rig right up until an outlander backed out of a car spot and opened the side of it up with the towbar and it ended up a total loss.

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                      #40
                      I'd be wary of the early Mazda CX9's, current ones I don't have experience with.

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                        #41
                        I am on my second second hand XC90 D5 Executive, predominately driven by my wife. The first 2009 model (5 years old at the time $21K) I bought at 92K and kept till 225K when I thought something has to wear out soon and fail, though nothing had. It had been totally reliable except for the silicone sleeve that attaches to the outlet of the turbo splitting and going into limp mode.

                        The second was a 2011 that I still have, bought at 112K for $16K. Have changed a steering clockspring in it at 140K for $530 genuine from the UK, full set of discs and pads, and the same silicone sleeve on the turbo just a few weeks ago at 180K. Gearboxes have been good, but I change the fluid every 50K with the correct Mobil 3309 ATF. Average around town 9L/100 and achieved the same on a 2000Klm round trip towing a 700Kg car on a trailer. Gets around 35K out of a set of tyres. When this one sees 230K or so I will buy a newer one, probably the last of this model which is 2014. The newer models are much more expensive.

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                          #42
                          Well as a turn up for the books I actually ended up buying a car today - 2010 CX-9 with 116k, needs a very good buff to remove millions of swirl marks, minor scratches but very tidy and runs well..kids are loving not being squeezed into a cerato or accent and so will see how it goes.

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                            #43
                            Nice now report back after 250k on experience
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                              #44
                              Check the transfer case oil.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by jgryder View Post
                                Well as a turn up for the books I actually ended up buying a car today - 2010 CX-9 with 116k, needs a very good buff to remove millions of swirl marks, minor scratches but very tidy and runs well..kids are loving not being squeezed into a cerato or accent and so will see how it goes.
                                I have a 2010 CX-9 (Have had it for about 7-8 years now) that now has 220 thousand + km on it, I have not had any issues with it.. I have three small kids and the interior has also held up.. Best reliable choice for a 7 seater imo

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