Only in America, WAYY over the top.

[MickyD]

impressive work.... but I still hate it

slightly OT, but one of the guys in that photo where they're raising the flag after sep11 was killed in iraq the other day.

[TonyJZX]

I've had it explained like this.

You've seen Pommies wear those Union Jack shorts - no one cares.

Try wearing a pair of shorts with the stars and stripes on it... in say NYC.

What's the difference?

T.

[bennettaru]

yay america...

[Wobbler]

Im all for big ass trucks with equally large mechanically injected engines, not a fan of lcd screens between shocks and whatnot.

[Sockz]

The guy with the glasses on the top right of this picture reminds me of Chester Bennington, from Linkin Park.

I don't know why.

[Sturmovik]

At the bottom left of this picture, is it just me, or is someone picking up Bob Hopes *lifeless* body to make him play a golf shot??

Im not sure on his name, but he was a reverend that died on 9/11 from falling debris, he is listed as officially the first person to die on that day and holds the 0001 death certificate.

[mirage]

I've had it explained like this.

You've seen Pommies wear those Union Jack shorts - no one cares.

Try wearing a pair of shorts with the stars and stripes on it... in say NYC.

What's the difference?

T.

My brother is doing one of those stupid work at summer camps and shit jobs around america and get a free holiday type deal.

At the end of the summer camp some of the guys got an American flag and got all the guys they worked with from various countries to sign it as a souvenir. Little did they know that they were actually defacing an American flag which brought a tear to many an American counsellors eye and they were ready to brawl over it. I mean, their flags come with instruction manuals on "how to operate your flag" and how to dispose of it if heaven forbid a corner of it should ever touch the ground.

I think the lines between freedom, common sense and stupidity is pretty clear, but obviously not to all.

Serisously, what is the deal with assault weapons for hunting and protecting your house from the king of England?

By the way, I reckon the truck is pretty cool though I am not sure of the merit that earned GWB's position on the mural.

[mirage]

Im not sure on his name, but he was a reverend that died on 9/11 from falling debris, he is listed as officially the first person to die on that day and holds the 0001 death certificate.

I didnt know that, but it doesnt make much sense to me, sounds more like propaganda than fact.
What caused the debris? I think something about innocent office workers and aircraft passengers come to mind but that doesnt have the same ring to it as Saddam, I mean, Osama killed a holy man first.

Wow, this is quickly turning into a "political" thread hey? :D

[coyote]

Only an american would believe that the guy 100 floors down was killed by falling debris prior to the person sitting by the window the nose of plane came through.

[Sturmovik]

I didnt know that, but it doesnt make much sense to me, sounds more like propaganda than fact.
What caused the debris? I think something about innocent office workers and aircraft passengers come to mind but that doesnt have the same ring to it as Saddam, I mean, Osama killed a holy man first.

Wow, this is quickly turning into a "political" thread hey? :D

A plane flying into a 400m high building caused the debris.... At the time, noone knew the name of anyone who died in the buildings, so obviously they couldnt write up any death certificates for any of them.
He was the first person to die officially that could be named and identified.

[Sturmovik]

Only an american would believe that the guy 100 floors down was killed by falling debris prior to the person sitting by the window the nose of plane came through.

So how do write up a death certificate for someone who was vapourised?

[coyote]

And how do you decide who gets the first death certificate and becomes the famous face as first person to (tragically) die? They needed a human face to single out from the rest and you can sure it wasn't going to be a drug addict or convict on parole.

Bush and the rest of america were milking this for all it was worth from the moment it happened. Don't think I'm disrespectful, I've got nothing on those opportunistic creators of propaganda.

If you want to believe everything you are spoon fed, go for it.

[Sturmovik]

And how do you decide who gets the first death certificate and becomes the famous face as first person to (tragically) die? They needed a human face to single out from the rest and you can sure it wasn't going to be a drug addict or convict on parole.

Bush and the rest of america were milking this for all it was worth from the moment it happened. Don't think I'm disrespectful, I've got nothing on those opportunistic creators of propaganda.

If you want to believe everything you are spoon fed, go for it.

I understand where your coming from, and I agree that it was 'convenient' that this guy was listed as the first to die. But what im saying is that you couldnt give death certificates to anyone in the building, as you didnt know who was alive or dead at that time. Yet this guy was quite clearly dead since you had a body....

[coyote]

It was more than convenient.

Someone at the Pentagon (what was left of it) put a big tick on the whiteboard of possible marketing opportunities when they went through the list of names to decide who was going to be listed as "the first".

[Che Castro]

I dont think they wouuld have exactly timed with a stopwatch who was dying where and what they did. I reckon it was a marketing thing as well