Monaro Voted The Top All Time Competition Muscle Car

[DoctorEvil]

Wheres the GTR's and Sierras, pack of a$$holes the lot of yas..

[edo]

M3s, sierras, Jags, GTRs, DR30s, & HR31s are not Australian & therefore are not eligiable for the list. Fark it...they arent muscle cars either...

BTW the Group C Vks are there in 7th...& the only reason you guys think that they are amazing is because you cannot remember anything earlier

[floody]

M3s, sierras, Jags, GTRs, DR30s, & HR31s are not Australian & therefore are not eligiable for the list. Fark it...they arent muscle cars either...

I was more getting at the fact that the aussie cars (car? I guess since no falcons, the commodore being the one left to defend bogan honour) weren't exactly the stand out performers of the period, hence little mention of them.

[Paddington]

I still can't believe they filled a whole magazine with that list....

[St00ge]

4. Pete Geoghegan Ford XY ‘Super Falcon’ (1971-72) > *

[Setanta]

that bluebird that was on pole at bathurst was tough. had two calipers on the front rotors :O

Was that George Fury's Bluebird? I seem to recollect it held the fastest lap time for Bathurst for some years.

[Camma]

Stanta. I believe it still holds the record but they changed the track (The Chase) so any comparison made now isnt relevant.

More info

http://www.valvebounce.com/home/viewtopic.php?t=15

[edo]

Bollocks. Firstly the chase made the circuit significantly slower.
Secondly Furys lap time was 2.13.85 (1984), Larry Perkins holds the record at 2.12.34 (1997) & Murph the qualifying record at 2.7.95 (2004).

Some people need to stop looking at old cars through rose coloured glasses & realise the the current cars are shitloads better in every respect.

[hamish]

Approximately how much did the 'Chase' add to the lap time? 2, 3-4 seconds? Add that on & you could get a more realstic comparison.

Edo, yeah, reading the stories in AMC makes you realise how crude some of these old cars were compared to the current "supercars" Although those last Group C c'dores were pretty quick given how close they were to the production versions.

[Bitsamissing]

Some people need to stop looking at old cars through rose coloured glasses & realise the the current cars are shitloads better in every respect.

I dunno about that, my old HR & warm 6 cyl red motor used to pull some pretty mean dorifto's as a young fella, and that was before we even knew we were 'drifting' :D

More votes to the HT 350 :worship:

[W0rp3D]

18. Jim Hunter ‘Baja 1000’ Falcon Ute (1987) WTF is that, im a ford fan and even i know ford didnt make anything good out of the xf.

14. Torana LC GTR XU-1 V8 Prototype (1972) a car that never was made it into the list?

15. Bob Jane LC Torana Repco V8 (1971) so cars that somebody put a bigger engine in makes the list?? what about sports sedans then, would kick ass over a lot of those cars but not one made the list, never liked mark oastlers commentary and now his taste gets tacked below that.

[floody]

18. Jim Hunter ‘Baja 1000’ Falcon Ute (1987) WTF is that, im a ford fan and even i know ford didnt make anything good out of the xf.

14. Torana LC GTR XU-1 V8 Prototype (1972) a car that never was made it into the list?

15. Bob Jane LC Torana Repco V8 (1971) so cars that somebody put a bigger engine in makes the list?? what about sports sedans then, would kick ass over a lot of those cars but not one made the list, never liked mark oastlers commentary and now his taste gets tacked below that.

1. Ford didn't make much good out of the XF. A guy builds a frame then plonked something vaguely resembling an XF on top, goes and races the yanks.

2. Yep. Too many pages to fill....Its a wonder the V8 R/T charger proto and Phase IV didn't make it in - maybe that was the only one they got period photos of in semi racing trim?

3.The Bob Jane torana would, loosely speaking, be a sports sedan. The early 70's "improved production" cars weren't far off sports sedans anyway, ie super falcon etc. The McCormack charger was a sports sedan, wasn't it?

[CXTdreamer]

M3s, sierras, Jags, GTRs, DR30s, & HR31s are not Australian & therefore are not eligiable for the list. Fark it...they arent muscle cars either...

BTW the Group C Vks are there in 7th...& the only reason you guys think that they are amazing is because you cannot remember anything earlier

Its the "Top 25 competition muscle cars of all time" but even if it did specify "Australian" then anything that has been allowed to race here in our premier series of the time should be eligible, if the HRT 427 is eligible then it doesnt have to be something that was sold in Australia.

The DR has to be a muscle car though, its too heavy and not nearly nimble enough to be a sports car, its not soft enough to be a GT, it has a bit too much power for the suspension and the standard brake setup is shocking... Muscle car :p



I like the Group C VK's because they were striking and they were effectively the last of the new Group C cars. I don't like V8 Toranas or Monaros and I'm sort of over GT's. The Moffat trans-am Mustang was nice as was the Jane Camaro but they're American (even if the Monaros and GTs had much the same mechanicals inside their Australian shells). Its not that I'm ignorant of what came before the late Group C era, I just don't like some of the older cars.


The Repco Charger is an exception