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    #16
    Originally posted by Grinno

    I recall reading something about Holden wanting to introduce a Diesel engine into the line up... would make alot of sense when you think about it.
    i think it was in motor/wheels. they were thinking serious about it was a 3.2lt oil burner from memory. i think they were bring it in from europe.

    how much money would it cost but, diesels arnt cheap to manufacture and every other car dealer on the planet add about $3-5k to the price. probably gonna cost more for the diesel SS than a V8.
    3 broken mitsubishi's (fuck im stupid)
    camry (daily)
    200 series cruiser (wifeys)

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      #17
      I thought the diesels were only $2k more than the petrol equivalents because they're either more in demand (as in Yewrop) or because people only buy them to save money long-term so it's accepted they'll pay more (eg. as in gerlytrux here). I didn't realise there was an extra construction cost involved?
      Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Forg
        I thought the diesels were only $2k more than the petrol equivalents because they're either more in demand (as in Yewrop) or because people only buy them to save money long-term so it's accepted they'll pay more (eg. as in gerlytrux here). I didn't realise there was an extra construction cost involved?
        And at last nights 1:21 per litre for Diesel why would you bother. Unleaded was 1:04.
        Sturgeon's Revelation (sometimes referred to as his second law): Ninety percent of everything is CRAP

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          #19
          I read an article about the cost of a VW Golf diesel vs petrol. When buying new, you have to keep the car for around 6 years (140,000kms i think) before the diesel will start to become cheaper. That was also assuming that diesel was 10% more expensive, (everywhere i see it, its more like 15%). It does not take into account resale value differences (guessing diesel will be better), servicing costs (aren't diesels more expensive?) as well as interest that could be earnt/saved buying the cheaper car. thoughts?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Wobbler
            Single Spinnar skiDz

            i mean duuuuh
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            Putting anything in a Holden instantly makes it crude - Wobbler

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              #21
              Im sure what forg saw was just a badge. If he saw the back of a certain territory he would freak out because it has the badges GT Turbo on it (GT actually came from GT-R badge that had the -R hacked off). In this case of course the territory is a turbo, but for less than $100 you can just have badges.

              Anyhoo, Im sure that both GM & Ford will bung deisels in their passenger car ranges before too long. Whoever suggested that the development or costs of bulding a Diesel for the purpose has kinda forgotten that both manufacturers already produce several suitable engines through one brand or another.

              I tossed the idea of a diesel cruiser up before I got my petrol...here is how my quick mental maths went. Real price difference (petrol had bigger discount that diesel) was about $16k. Difference in fuel costs 10%, Difference in fuel usage about 30%.
              Say I do 15,000km a year, in a petrol cruiser thats around 15l per 100 so 2250 litres...& for the sake of my brain $1 per litre...$2250 per year.
              Now If I went diesel Id reduce that usage by 30% so 1575 litres, but it costs $1.10 per litre or $1732.50 per annum.

              Total difference in fuel cost is about $500 per annum...now Im only going to own it for say 5 years...so thats $2500.

              Is the diesel going to be worth $13500 more in 5 years than the petrol? I seriously doubt it...Id say the petrol might be worth $35k & the deisel say $42k...
              http://www.larryscustomcycles.com.au

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                #22
                I agree with your maths edo, but the thing that makes the difference to me is that with a big trailer on, the petrol deal will burn 20 plus/100, the diesel will still do 12 or 13. In my experience anyhow.

                Plus you cant boost an n/a petrol engine :D

                I guess it depends on what your intended use is.

                Muz

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                  #23
                  I'll tow a big trailer probably once a year.
                  The petrol makes as much grunt as a sensibly boosted cruiser diesel anyway& its a much smoother nicer thing.

                  My intended use is driving it around & annoying as many people as I can...that & reversing over entire classrooms full of kids.
                  http://www.larryscustomcycles.com.au

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                    #24
                    Gerlytrux tend to have a bigger initial-cost difference 'tween equivalent diesels & petrols too; again, I've always assumed it was 'cos people will pay it. If'n the difference was similar to what the difference is on, say, a Golf; the diesel would've been worth the initial price-difference.
                    Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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