Watched a P plater crash yesterday

[tandy ass]

my dad musta taught me car control (and car passion),

i learnt friction point on a hill, then how to spin them, easy in mums 180B, there was not much kanga-hopping after that, then i tried to drive exactly how he did, i thought that this was how everyone else should drive so i copied it,

I think thats the key point. I learned from my dad, who was far, far superior to my mum at driving.

I think all of my good skills and ingrained habits today are as a result of my dad's display of skills, long before I even had my learners. He never tailgates, always told me he was looking well ahead of the car in front, told me when he was predicting the lights to change or not, occasionally getting the arse end sideways in the wet etc

He's never had an at fault accident in his life. I think it was him actually talking about the driving that got me into realising how bad other people on the road really were, I remember a great interest in it from at least 12 or 13 years old...

Which leads me to the future of driving - road rage, bad tailgaters, talking on phones while driving, smoking while driving, drink driving etc etc.

It's going to get a lot worse for everyone soon....

[Sir Revalot]

Yeah and the problem is whilst driver training is inadequate, they keep lowering speed limits everywhere which just causes more frustration which in turn leads to tailgating, road rage etc...

I'm not certain about this, but I remember hearing either here or on another auto-related forum that in Germany or some other European countries the driver training costs a lot more, but is much more thorough and includes things such as skid pan training etc. Because getting your licence costs so much, people tend to:

a) be better drivers
b) value their licence more so don't do as many stupid things on the road

As Secoh said - I'm not sure why people getting their car licence don't have to watch the videos we do when getting a bike licence (except for the one with the talking bike - that's just stupid! )

Hazard perception is a key ingredient to good driving, but so many people just don't know how to do it.

Why just this morning on the way to work on my Bike I could have had a nasty crash if I didn't predict that a moron was going to pull out in front of me. I was already on the brakes even before he pulled out and was able to dart around him with no issues (blasting the horn whilst I passed them of course)..