GM's new 7L 500hp 7100rpm pissing competition.

[edo]

At the moment Im complaining that I dont have anything to put one in...

[itsnotagsr]

Until there is another oil crisis and big engine vehicles are left by the side of the road like what happened in the 70's.

At which time, we Pfers will start to stockpile them until they're popular again. 454 or Hemi anyone?

[CussCuss]

Sorry if I'm wrong but I thought power was all about flow? Sure, yes mechanical efficiency plays a big part, but have you seen the flow figures for the Z06 heads? Bloody awesome for a two valve head of relatively small port size.

Does it suck down the fuel like a traditional V8? Or at least like a 7 litre "ought to"? No.

Do you think the engine is tuned to within an inch of its life? I highly doubt it. The cam in it is piss weak, and if it responds to bolt-ons like the common LS1, I'd say there'd be no reason why it wouldnt comfortably make 600 lazy HP / 550ft.lb without even trying.

Whats the problem? Are people complaining that even tho its just a big dumb engine, that it happens to make great HP/torque, returns decent fuel economy, and is physically a compact package as well as being a comparitavely affordable engine?

Oh and how fast is the car round the 'ring?

7:42.9 and yes its already responding fantastic to mods.

and no DOD

[tremolo]

Fuck me in the goat-ass this thing is fast:

ACCELERATION: Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 1.6
40 mph: 2.2
50 mph: 2.8
60 mph: 3.6
70 mph: 4.5
80 mph: 5.5
90 mph: 6.7
100 mph: 7.9
110 mph: 9.3
120 mph: 11.0
130 mph: 12.8
140 mph: 15.0
150 mph: 17.5
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.3
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 12.9
50-70 mph: 10.6
Standing 1/4-mile: 11.7 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 198 mph


Pretty good for US$65K

[BigMuz]

Bill- no offence, but 500 hp is more fun than the sickest 120 hp/litre car you can show me. Download the video walkie just posted and hear what it sounds like.

Precious few people here will ever get to feel 500 real hp. Nothing like it. (Except 1000 real :D)

I say, who cares what it is as long as it is fast. Someone elses fuel bills worry me very little :D

Muz

[Dave]

I have been in 500 at the rears, quite fun

edo, buy a torana, get rid of the capri. Can you run a ls2 powered torana at targa??

[edo]

Cathy has a bit more than 500 at the wheels but she is a bit silly.

kylent, Sure can...just as soon as you can prove that someone built 500 of them. A very small stumbling block I know.

[IMOA]

How many members here?

[Vicko]

Apart from engineers and marketers, who gives a toss about hp/litre?
Its an old argument, its a dead argument - move on already.

[edo]

even then its only engineers & marketers whose engines arent big enough...

[Dave]

edo - I am sure they built them in south africa at some stage, problem solvered

HP/per pushrod - ls2 wins, argument over

[Vicko]

lol @ edo.. its like a monty python sketch..

1st engineer to customer
'Here you are sir, a shiny lump of metal for you! It is x wide, y high, weighs z, puts out 500hp and only costs 20 grand!!'

2nd engineer to customer
'Ahhh but sir, have a look at MY lump of metal! Sure it might be slightly bigger, and slightly heavier, costs a bit more and puts out about the same amount of power, but its so much better than the other one cos the insides are smaller!'

[hamish]

2nd engineer to customer
'Ahhh but sir, have a look at MY lump of metal! Sure it might be slightly bigger, and slightly heavier, costs a bit more and puts out about the same amount of power, but its so much better than the other one cos the insides are smaller!'

Plus it has twin dual overhead whangers!!

[THE ASH]

lol @ edo.. its like a monty python sketch..

1st engineer to customer
'Here you are sir, a shiny lump of metal for you! It is x wide, y high, weighs z, puts out 500hp and only costs 20 grand!!'

2nd engineer to customer
'Ahhh but sir, have a look at MY lump of metal! Sure it might be slightly bigger, and slightly heavier, costs a bit more and puts out about the same amount of power, but its so much better than the other one cos the insides are smaller!'

I think this sums the whole argument up

[walkie]

lol @ edo.. its like a monty python sketch..

1st engineer to customer
'Here you are sir, a shiny lump of metal for you! It is x wide, y high, weighs z, puts out 500hp and only costs 20 grand!!'

2nd engineer to customer
'Ahhh but sir, have a look at MY lump of metal! Sure it might be slightly bigger, and slightly heavier, costs a bit more and puts out about the same amount of power, but its so much better than the other one cos the insides are smaller!'

nail on the head