MY06 STI Finally HERE ! First Impressions

[hamish]

MZ21, I don't have the income or job to afford any of them, so it's just hypothetical on my part but I think the extroverted exterior would be a hinderance. It would attract all the wrong sort of attention, and you've just mentioned that the rear wing compromises the cars useability. I just think it would be nice to have the choice of getting one in a 'plain wrapper'.

With the teenage thing, seriously, the last time I thought lairy add on body kits looked any good on a road car, sedans in particular, was at about the age of 16-17..... so I tend to associate the like of them, with the passing of puberty. But thats just my, subjective, opinion

[Turbo4WD]

[QUOTE=MZ21]
As for even comparing an MPS as an alternative to an WRX STi or EVO 9, mate there is NO comparision, compare the MPS to the Liberty GT (in fact Motor or Wheels did that recently) QUOTE]

The MPS won.

but the MPS will get it's head kicked by the other two.

People probably buy these cars for different reasons, but the reason I wanted either a EVO or STi was: I could buy one these cars have pretty much a bulletproof package that didn't need money thrown at it. Basically they've everything you want, with the extroverted exterior and bonus or hinderance (depending on your POV). Already the rear spoiler is getting annoying not being able to see traffic in the rear view mirror.

Honestly who here has mentally passed to age of thirteen anyway. I know I haven't!

Of course it would be great if Mazda could make it as quick as an Evo but still keep the good looks and liveability. At this point though I guess you just have to make a choice - luckily the Mazda also enjoys a significant price advantage - or you can go for the super luxury leather interor and mobile bose sound lounge - and since the MPS still has decent sound deadening ect you can actualy enjoy it

And even you made a comprimise - the Evo is still the king when it comes to the ultimate boy racer road warrior - but the Sti is almost as quick and with the "Lazy seppo big block" its much easier to drive.. What's to say that in a couple of years you might find yourself geting headkicked by evo's in a MPS?

[Southo]

As much as the PIA Subaru key pad which has left a mate of mine stranded three hours in Goulburn until the tow truck arrived?

That is one incident in probably 8,000 installations that I have heard of with a problem with the keypad system.

there are only around 120 EVO IX's - delivered - by the way I am hearing things, it appears the system is flawed in it's design..

Not only for the reasons above, but the system also goes into "Melt Down mode"
From the explanation that I was given, It occurs when the vehicle is located in an area where it can not access at least 3 Satellites. The GPS module continually ups it's receiver power (to search harder ?) and there was not a limit that the system was programmed to go to (or something - I don't fully undertsand), anyway, the system shat itself when it reached a certain threshold or some such, resulting in a complete shut down. Quite a few guys have experienced this, and apparently it is an easy enough fix, (and I believe it is being rectified when the cars are returned to Mitsu for servicing, but in the mean time, people are being stranded...

As for what system is about the best..

If you Never venture out of the Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane/Gold Coast Metropolitan areas, then Multitrak (the new name for QuikTrak) is as good as any. If you venture outside these areas, or want lots more available features (GPS Navigation, Built In car phone, Geofencing, Additional inputs/triggers etc*), then the Intellitrac system is the ducks nuts in my opinion..

I have this system in my car now..

* Can set it up so that if you go over a preset speed, or RPM, or boost etc it will notify you (perfect for when you loan your car, or put it in for servicing etc) You can set it up for things like if someone does a burn out in your car (need a module to measure front vs rear wheel speed), or if the air bags go off (accident etc) etc - as long as it can me electronically measured and can set off a trigger etc - it can notify you.. (there are 7 triggers available), opening the bonnet, boot, glove box etc... Great if you Valet park and don't want them snooping through your car...

* You can have multiple "exclusion zones" so that if your car enters a particular area, (as set by you) it will notify you (great if you lend your car and don't want them taking it to WSID, or out of the metro area etc...

* Best of all you can request your vehicle be logged (so if you ever have a speeding fine to contest, or parking fine which you were NOT guilty of, you can check the log and see where you were at any given time / date. (Don't know if it is admissable in court ?)

The ONLY problem I find with my system is that my tiny odyssey battery lasts only 4 days without driving before going flat. I now have a special plug and lead I made up so I can just plug it into a trickle charger in my garage if it is being left for more than 3 days.. otherwise I know I'll get a phone call at 2am or some other ungodly hour from Intellitrac saying - "your battery is going flat" - I hate being woken up...

[MZ21]

And even you made a comprimise - the Evo is still the king when it comes to the ultimate boy racer road warrior - but the Sti is almost as quick and with the "Lazy seppo big block" its much easier to drive.. What's to say that in a couple of years you might find yourself geting headkicked by evo's in a MPS?

While I don't want to get into an argument over EVO V STI, Motor tested, EVO/STI/HSV, found the STI to quicker around Oran Park, whether down to tyres on not, it still took out the win. If Mitsu don't like it they can fit RE070's too

STI: 49.45, EVO: 49.75, HSV: 51.75

As for 0-100, EVO: 5.02, STI: 5.43 (STI let down by additional gear shift required), as comparison 0-90 is very close between to the two jap cars.

Also the EVO, is not really suited as a daily driver, where that "seppo big block" (i assume you mean that in a derogatory way) pulls effortlessly in Sydney traffic, I rearly downshift to 3rd in heavy traffic, just potter around in 4th and 5th.

Evo's in an MPS, I don't even get that: Are you saying an MPS with an EVO conversion. Regardless, the MPS is not pitched at enthusiests and frankly I don't think it will be.

[walkie]

Evo's in an MPS, I don't even get that: Are you saying an MPS with an EVO conversion. Regardless, the MPS is not pitched at enthusiests and frankly I don't think it will be.

I think he meant that in a few years time you'll have outgrown the STi and an MPS might be better suited to what you want. Then the EVOs will be kickin your head in

sounds like you've made a good choice though, glad you're enjoying it

[Skitza]

While I don't want to get into an argument over EVO V STI, Motor tested, EVO/STI/HSV, found the STI to quicker around Oran Park, whether down to tyres on not, it still took out the win. If Mitsu don't like it they can fit RE070's too

STI: 49.45, EVO: 49.75, HSV: 51.75

As for 0-100, EVO: 5.02, STI: 5.43 (STI let down by additional gear shift required), as comparison 0-90 is very close between to the two jap cars.

Also the EVO, is not really suited as a daily driver, where that "seppo big block" (i assume you mean that in a derogatory way) pulls effortlessly in Sydney traffic, I rearly downshift to 3rd in heavy traffic, just potter around in 4th and 5th.

Evo's in an MPS, I don't even get that: Are you saying an MPS with an EVO conversion. Regardless, the MPS is not pitched at enthusiests and frankly I don't think it will be.

You can put around in just about any gear in the Evo, it pulls nicely even in 5th, 6th might as well not be there heh, 100 @ 2000rpm in 6th. The Evo pulls "effortlessly" as well You can easily drive around in 3rd all day if you felt like it. having been in the new 2.5L donk it does have a very smooth power delivery and for a normal person it has plenty enough power.

[TommO]

Also the EVO, is not really suited as a daily driver, where that "seppo big block" (i assume you mean that in a derogatory way) pulls effortlessly in Sydney traffic,

Did you even drive an Evo IX ? I'm guessing not.

Considering the Evo has max torque before the 2.5L STi, I don't see how you can come to this decision. They are very very easy to drive everyday.

[MZ21]

Did you even drive an Evo IX ? I'm guessing not.

Considering the Evo has max torque before the 2.5L STi, I don't see how you can come to this decision. They are very very easy to drive everyday.

If you had bothered to read the rest of the thread, you would have read that I have infact driven both before buying and actually had a preference for the EVO. While the EVO's acelleration, handling are brilliant, off boost driving does feel better in the STi, but what would I know, most motoring journo's also agree.

I guess the other question is, have you driven them .... didn't think so ...

[TommO]

I did read the whole thread and have been subscribed to it from when you posted it Sorry I forgot you drove the Evo... So the STi is better than the Evo in off boost driving, but you wrote "the evo is not really suited as a daily driver", which I strongly disagree to.

Yes I have driven a Evo IX twice, and been passenger in a test drive for a Evo IX from Parra Mitsu (who I currently have an order in through for the Evo, through Alex G) , I have not driven the new STi though... I like to mod my cars, and the new front end makes me spew.

But hey, why don't you make more assumptions that I haven't driven either :knock:

Either way, if you're happy with your STi, that's awesome :D You can't go wrong with either cars, but of course i'm going to whinge about the comment where you said an Evo is not suited to daily driving.

[trent from punchy]

While I don't want to get into an argument over EVO V STI, Motor tested, EVO/STI/HSV, found the STI to quicker around Oran Park, whether down to tyres on not, it still took out the win. If Mitsu don't like it they can fit RE070's too

STI: 49.45, EVO: 49.75, HSV: 51.75

oh mitsu like that, dont you worry.

If they did fit Rspecs to it it would be a good second faster

[itsnotagsr]

I can't help thinking that Subaru must have reached the limits of their chassis development on the current model. I can't think of any other reason why you would fit semi-slicks to a car in order to improve grip.

[Captiva Fan]

I think you're right, although as a slight refinement on the idea it's maybe more likely that they've reached the limit of what they're going to bother doing; rather than what's actually possible. Isn't the current look only supposed to hang around for another year or so before a new model's released?

On the other hand, semi-slicks does appeal to the doof-doof crowd; as a marketing exercise.

[itsnotagsr]

I think tyres can hide a lot on a car. HSV have been doing it for years. If you read the latest motor, they test drive the latest Clubsport, which now comes with a semi slick rather than Pirelli Corsas. They make a big deal about the improvement in handling (ie grip).

[TonyJZX]

The shocks comes when it's time to replace the back tyres.

And you know how often HSV owners have to do that!

Corsas are $800 apiece in 18"?