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    #16
    If he wasn't speeding at the time then whats all the fuss about?

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      #17
      "I think there should be more consistencies [between car and motorcycle licensing] - I agree that it's too easy to get your licence on a motor bike, particularly the big bikes,'' [Gibson] said.


      Right. Its easier to get a full motorcycle licence now than a full car license? What the f#ck is that guy waffling on about?

      As for the family, its understandable they're looking for someone to blame, and there we go, they've named lenders, government, motorcycle manufacturers...
      But not the kid. They said he was a danger - but they're blaming everybody else, for not protecting him from himself!.
      I've seen things you people wouldn't believe, and from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip-malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moments lost in time; gone like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die.
      - Phil Ken Sebben

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        #18
        Originally posted by floody
        "I think there should be more consistencies [between car and motorcycle licensing] - I agree that it's too easy to get your licence on a motor bike, particularly the big bikes,'' [Gibson] said.


        Right. Its easier to get a full motorcycle licence now than a full car license? What the f#ck is that guy waffling on about?
        Actually, i found getting my big bike licence a hell of alot easier then getting my car licence (do figure 8's, some braking stuff and road ride, hey presto i can ride a big bike).

        Its easy to see the kid was a death trap waiting to happen, the father and friends did all they can and yet he still went out and did it.

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          #19
          Life's dangerous, make your choices and accept the risks.
          get lead like a leader

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            #20
            its all about restraint.. you can drive a 500hp car on the road and not break the rules or endanger anyone.. and you can choose your time and place to 'enjoy' it.. .same with sports bikes..
            This is a post i wrote by mistake, which is nice...

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              #21
              Originally posted by SuperNaf
              Actually, i found getting my big bike licence a hell of alot easier then getting my car licence (do figure 8's, some braking stuff and road ride, hey presto i can ride a big bike).
              I dont know how you go about it now days in 1975 when I got my bike licence it was turnup to the cop shop on my 750 honda and that was legal on L plates
              then told to ride to the local rail station and back
              when I got back the copper was out the back reading a paper

              as for high powered bikes or high powered cars they are not the problem it low powered drivers/riders making bad judgements

              cheater on his soap box

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                #22
                "How can someone with all those suspensions get a full licence for a big bike?"
                I think this is the key.

                Driving or riding is a privilege.

                This guy had "numerous" suspensions in only 3 years? He should have been limited to driving a NA car under 1.5 litre or a bike under 400cc for the next 10 years and bloody grateful for that!

                I realise that statement above probably touches a few nerves with some people on here, but it's no different to releasing a child molester and putting them in charge of the child care centre.

                Not for one minute does this mean anyone but his stupid self is to blame that he's now dead, but to say that someone who has repeatedly shown themselves to be completely irresponsible should serve a suspension and then be instantly permitted to pilot something that requires lots of responsibility defies logic.

                I've had a few quickish cars and my wife used to ride a 1000cc italian V twin and there a few similar toys on the shopping list, but should either of us prove ourselves irresponsible enough to not deserve the privilege of a license, it would be understandable that we in future be limited to more sedate modes of transport.
                Happy Christmas

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                  #23
                  If only that was the case though
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by sejanus
                    Those sort of bikes are stupidly fast - there is absolutely zero need for them on the roads. On a racetrack fair enough but tell me why anyone would need a 900/1100/1200 bike - hell even a 500 can be a bloody rocket.

                    note I'm talking about the quick ones here not the big 1100 cruisers.
                    Why dont you take it one step further Harold and ban everything with a motor.

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                      #25
                      Those sort of bikes are stupidly fast - there is absolutely zero need for them on the roads.
                      exactly the same as STI's and S6 rx7's...
                      This is a post i wrote by mistake, which is nice...

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                        #26
                        i agree with the people who are saying it's the guys fault alone, hell he probably would have killed himself on a 250 by the sounds of his hoon credentials. i've been riding an r1 since 21 and a cbr900 before that. i'm still alive, though i respect the bike and more importantly my life.

                        Moral of the story, people do stupid things, bikes are taken on the ride.

                        rest in peace kwaka ninja. Ohh, and rider!

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                          #27
                          I feel sorry for the bloke losing his son, he must be devastated. But even if his son was restricted to a 250cc bike he still could have ridden one anyway that belonged to mates or whatever ?

                          Maybe you should be over 25 before you can ride or drive a high performance car but that opens another can of worms. I've met 19 year olds that are far more mature than 30 year olds. You can't legislate against stupidity unfortunately. (Otherwise Ustasa would still be banned for instance :p )
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                          Originally posted by Ustasa
                          I suggest you stick to flying planes and quit making incessant snide remarks about me. You can start by removing that rubbish from your signature and showing some maturity for your age. Otherwise this shit ain't gonna stop I promise you.

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                            #28
                            Mr Mork was frank about his late son's driving record - he said Matthew had his licence suspended several times for a period totalling three-and-a-half years.

                            He said Matthew had appeared in court for a number of incidents, including a 20-minute police chase, about a month after he got his first set of P-plates.
                            ... someone seems to be missing the point about why this happened!

                            Somehow I think the fact that the kid was an absolute fuck-wit might have something to do with the fact he's now dead not the motorbike he was riding...

                            Sounds like the guy should never have been given a liscence to drive or ride anything its not the bloody bikes fault its the guy behind the controls!

                            I just have no sympathy for this

                            Its a case of do we live in a free world or do we live in a controlled world?

                            We should be choose to spend our money on whatever we choose so long as it doesn't have a negative impact on others now if the complaint was that superbikes harm pedestrians (scruby) then for sure we should ban bikes and everythign else...

                            But in this case its an adult person who should be big enough and ugly enough to make real world big boy descisions for himself he got the liscence, bought the bike, rode the bike and chose to ride the bike like he did you have to weigh up the consequences..

                            The world is really going down the shitter that someone is always looking for someone else to blame when really the only person to blame is themselves

                            Condolenses to the father losing his son but maybe the papers should think better than to publish the ramblings of a grieving father whose just lost a son he loved and is looking for someone to blame?

                            ...

                            In addition...

                            Of course the article then puts in a speil from a politician about the great need in society for greater speed punishment oh speed kills ... FFS speed had nothing to do with this accident at all! It all had to do with a rider going far too quick for the conditions he was riding in I'm not sure if this guy ever obeyed a speed limit in his life so I doubt tougher restrictions for speeding would have really done much to change his attitude
                            Speed cameras: Best tax ever! The one that makes you pay and makes you think you deserve it.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by dazza
                              Somehow I think the fact that the kid was an absolute fuck-wit might have something to do with the fact he's now dead not the motorbike he was riding...

                              I just have no sympathy for this
                              Harsh words mate. I don't think its fair to call him an absolute fuck-wit because he did a wheelie. Many of us on here have had our licenses suspended before, for whatever reason. Maybe you should show some restraint.

                              IMHO Kids will be kids and you can't stop everyone, all the time..
                              2002 honda cr-v..... comfortable with my masculinity, fiscally responsible... it's a bitch magnet

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by sejanus
                                Those mx5s are stupidly fast - there is absolutely zero need for them on the roads. On a racetrack fair enough but tell me why anyone would need a car that will do 100 kays in under 10 seconds, and go on to a top speed of around 200 km/hr?

                                Fixed.

                                Its awful to lose a family member, but this guy was a tool. His dad had a motorsport background and should have done what it took to fix his son's stupidity. FFS a stock 6 cylinder commode is way fast enough to kill yourself in.

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