Ban SUPERBIKES11!

[shaz448]

I am so disgusted of what i have been reading about my friend Matthew Mork who has passed away. How dare you speak of the deceased in that way. Sure you hear about all the bad thing that he has done but if u looked up information on the interent you would see he done some racing himself just like his father and you would also see that he was a mechanic so he knew his cars inside and out. He loved the thrill of riding and he let it get the better of him.

How dare you call my friend an abouslute fuckwit you are an abouslute fuck wit we have been through enough we dont have to have people that dont even no matthew call him a fuckwit. You are s self Centred prick DAZZA!

Matthew had a big ego he thought he could handle it. These are the reason why I believe that it should be harder for people to get these bikes.Young people believe that they can do anything.

Matthew Mork was one of the most amazing people i knew. Rest In Peace Matty You no ur friends will love you forever.

Charlene

[BigMuz]

What do you think of his father's response?

What would you have done to save his life.

(Please don't take it too seriously, it is just the internet...)(people saying 'fuckwit' are not the norm.)

[shaz448]

How am i supposed to not get angry at people who are abusing sumone that has died that i dearly care for if you were in my posuiotn u would be upset as well wat gives people the rite

as for his father he did all he could i no that matthew would not listen to his father anyway he was more close to his mother his mother died 2 years ago and he lived with his friends.

Matthw was very stubborn and liked to get things his own way alot like me thats why we had an argue ment before he died i didnt even no he was dead until i heard off sumone i barely new becasue all mattys friends hated me i didnt get to say good bye and i feel horrible because i didnt

One year before his exact date of death i was at his house i just wish i was there this year.

[BigMuz]

No worries. Thanks for replying.

I started the thread to stir people up and make them think about the responsibility they need to take with machinery. I didn't mean too much disrespect.

His father's comments grated my nerves because these sort of things affect all our freedoms in the world. It does sound like this bloke would have done himself in sooner or later on any bike or car. You shouldn't blame yourself one way or the other.

Anyways, thanks for replying.

Guys, go easy please. Fair's fair.

[dazza]

How dare you call my friend an abouslute fuckwit you are ian abouslute fuck wit we have been through enough we dont have to have people that dont even no matthew call him a fuckwit. You are s self Centred prick DAZZA!

Matthew had a big ego he thought he could handle it. These are the reason why I believe that it should be harder for people to get these bikes.Young people believe that they can do anything.

Matthew Mork was one of the most amazing people i knew. Rest In Peace Matty You no ur friends will love you forever.

Well its a big bad world isn't it... Lots of mean heartless people around

It all goes to maturity and responsibility these days doesn't it! Some people just as you said have big ego's and think they can do anything... Its no fault of the bike...

Your friend was a legal adult who as an adult made the descision for himself to purchase the vehicle, and the manner in which he rode it, he made the choices and he paid the price for the consequences.

His father is in mourning as you are... I do feel sorry for your loss but I'm not talking about your friend I'm talking about some guy in a news article I'm sorry that they are the same person I certainly feel sorry for the father but I think in mourning he is just looking for someone to blame just like everyone else seems to be

Maybe you should be questioning the liscence system? Maybe you should be asking if in giving your friend his liscence back after suspending it 'several times over 3 and a 1/2 years' did the government contribute to his consequent death?

[Matt's Mate]

Shame on you all

stiff shit.

dad should face it, son was a dickhead.

You all should stop with the horrible shit you're all going on about. Matthew is dead. Can't you all just leave the bloke alone and stop the bagging out on him?

Sure Matt was no angel, and it is quite clear his father was not hiding that fact. It is in the article now isn't it, that he was a bit of a rebel.

But come on people, a young guy has lost his life, a father lost his son, and two brothers lost a mate! And their are a few friends of his out there who are now missing a constant part in their lives as well.

You all only read negatives about him. There was much more than that to his character. Sure he would speed and give the cops a bit of run for their money, but hey, who hasn't done things we all should'nt have ay?

Now you all can't sit there saying you blokes have never done wheel stands, cause we all know that would be a lie! Accidents happen and human error will be ever present in any situation. So what, the poor bugger miscalculated his actions, this gives you the right to say all the nasty shit?

Maybe our licensing laws need an upgrade, a good look through, sure Matt had a record as long as your arm for his poor on-road driving, but you think the authorities would have picked up on this?! I agree with his Dad, he should not have been giving that license to ride a bike so powerful.

Matt is not the first to kill himself on a motor bike and he sure as heck won't be the last.

[tremolo]

I agree with his Dad, he should not have been giving that license to ride a bike so powerful.

No offense mate, but he should have woken up and realised he was a danger to himself before he bought the thing. That's what we're saying in this thread (albeit bluntly at times).

I've lost a couple of friends on the roads who were doing stupid things, so I know how it feels. A mate of mine lost three friends in one horiffic, fiery accident a few years back. They were doing 200km/h in a 60km/h zone and ran out of road, but it was nobodys fault but the drivers. He was being stupid, and unfortunately, his stupidity cost them dearly.

[Cal]

Sure he would speed and give the cops a bit of run for their money, but hey, who hasn't done things we all should'nt have ay?

There is a fairly large distinction between doing things we shouldn't have and "giving the cops a run for their money"

Cal.

[GSRman]

I agree with his Dad, he should not have been giving that license to ride a bike so powerful.

i know a guy here in canberra that is riding an R1 on his p's which he's not legally allowed to do.. what makes people think that Matt who obviously wasn't particularly partial to the law, would have obeyed any sort of restriction against his licence anyway? did he ride/drive when he didn't have his licence at any point?

Heroin is illegal in all sorts of ways, one of my friends from highschool still died with a needle in his arm..

i seriously don't think changing the laws would make a lick of difference, sorry for your loss, but in the end its up to the individual to not remove themselves from the gene pool in some pointless way.

[Matt's Mate]

And you know something Tremolo, I'm not dissing the fact that he was a danger to himself. It is a bit unfair though everyone ragging on him like they are.

People makes mistakes, but there aint a need to be pigheaded like ye all are and saying its all his fault and now he got what for. People makes mistakes!!

Come on. A life has been lost!!

The real big issue is that fact he got a license for something so powerful.

I am saying our RTA needs an over haul. They really need to check into peoples files!

But I am not dissing the fact he was a danger to himself. Matty knew better, but he was also rather cocky and was sure he could handle it.

The Matty I knew was not all the rebel it has been made out he was.
I adored him, he was a great bloke.

[Drifter]

I think one of the reasons why some people are unsympathetic is that it's situations like this, where the reckless and irresponsible few cast us all in bad light as far as the press, general public and government go. Bad press gives rise to bad public opinion and the government reacts by passing laws that effect those with some common sense who just enjoy their cars/bikes responsibly.

Maybe not so much this particular case but it’s in the same boat. Maybe I’m just wrong…

That said, a young man is still dead and is obviously missed by family and friends.

[edo]

The real big issue is that fact he got a license for something so powerful.

No it isnt. If he couldnt get a licence for more than a postie bike or a Nikki for the next 10 years how do you think he would have handled that?

Would he have all of a sudden accepted the word of authority that he had previously done nothing but ignore?

Or would he have just ignored the law just as he did his family & friends, just as he had in the past.

I didnt know him from a bar of soap but Im willing to bet he wasnt about to do a complete about face just because the police or judge said he had to.

While there isnt a single person here who isnt sorry for your loss, we are looking at it from a much more objective viewpoint than you are able to. That viewpoint allows us to look at the situation & determine that nothing was going to stop him but himself...& he was showing no sign of doing it.

Again, sorry for you loss, I hope that his mates & others all learn from this.

[Matt's Mate]

[QUOTE=Drifter]where the reckless and irresponsible few cast us all in bad light as far as the press, general public and government go.

I understand where you are coming from. I can see both sides of the story here.

There are many more reckless drivers out here. He was only one, just one.
I mean come on look at the Mildura case, huh?! He killed 6 kids!! Reckless?
Matthew only took himself out, no one else.

Matty won't be the only one to die this way, and won't be the last to make "bad light as far as the press, general public and government go." for all you people who just enjoy riding your bikes.

[GSRman]

ahh from what ive heard in the press.. it seems the guy in mildura was probably only a gumby with the average car control skills required in this country...

but thats a completely different story..

No matter how nice Matt was, (the rest of us didn't know him and can't remember him that way) he was still being irresponsible and it caused his own sad death, its not good, and its much worse for those that knew him, but i don't think changing the law would have stopped his needless death.

[CypherX]

I dont think anyone here means any disrespect to Matt. What I think is being said is that when you do something, you take the responsibility and your own life in your own hands. So no law or anything else will ever stop people being stupid, driving drunk, speeding excessively for the conditions, having an unroadworthy vehicle, etc and killing themselves and others.

What is being said is that the system is not the fault, the vehicle is not the fault (in this case). It is solely the operator.

Would the potential for this have been any different on a 250? Would the potential for this have been any different if their had been license restrictions or a total ban?

Yes the system is stupid. This I agree with. I got my Ps just riding a CT110 in a carpark learning the test. Yes I passed. But I have not gone out to buy a bike and when I do, it will be something I am capable of riding...I understand it is all too easy to die on a bike so I take precautions. (in my own case, I did the test this way to prove how stupid the system is. In the ACT, there is no road test for bike license, just all that slow speed stuff).

But at the end of the day, I have to have enough responsibility to know my limits and maybe think about what I am doing.

Any bike can kill you and others, so can any car, a knife, a gun, an aresole can, a metal rod....its how it is used...cause I have never heard of any of these things doing any harm to anyone by themselves...

I am sure Matt was a decent guy but he was just to boyish for his own good...