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    #106
    No one seems to have mentioned that the bigger the capacity and HP, the stronger the drivetrain components required to cope with it. The stronger they are, the more likely they will be a lot heavier too. Hence I think ALLMTR should focus on the weight side (ie removing it) and getting an ~2L engine that makes reliable, but less hp, than some >1000hp V8 monster.
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

    "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
    (TM - AVENGE)

    "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
    Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02

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      #107
      i vote for a 13B PP in a moke with 300hp of nawz.
      This is a post i wrote by mistake, which is nice...

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        #108
        i think the first step here would be to move to the US because their dynos read 10% better than they do here, just makes the job that little bit easier.
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          #109
          Originally posted by hamish
          I think it would be very, very difficult to register something that achieves your power to weight goal.

          Could you imagine how difficult to drive a V8 supercar would be with 1300hp at the treads, and you are asking to put that sort of output through street rubber??? Would an engineer be willing sign off on such a creation??
          An engineer doesn't know how much power the car is going to make. For example, a procharged small block into a hilux could (theoretically) go 1hp/kg and I wouldn't think that an engineer would have a problem signing off on it....
          I own a two and a half litre Commodore

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            #110
            Originally posted by itsnotagsr
            No one seems to have mentioned that the bigger the capacity and HP, the stronger the drivetrain components required to cope with it. The stronger they are, the more likely they will be a lot heavier too. Hence I think ALLMTR should focus on the weight side (ie removing it) and getting an ~2L engine that makes reliable, but less hp, than some >1000hp V8 monster.
            Originally posted by ALLMTR
            You'd never get a V8 turbo with a drivetrain to handle that kind of power in at that weight....
            The other problem with the drivetrain to handle huge horsepower is that it "absorbs" power. Nothing drains power like a 9 inch...
            I own a two and a half litre Commodore

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              #111
              Originally posted by CussCuss
              i think the first step here would be to move to the US because their dynos read 10% better than they do here, just makes the job that little bit easier.
              Their dyno's might be different but no matter what weight you did it at you'd be looking at +170mph quarters!!!!!!!!!! (according to Moroso with 200lb driver)
              I own a two and a half litre Commodore

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                #112
                shit tin the VW idea unless you're prepared to use a Hewland transaxle ($30k). The VW 2.0L kombi one will turn to shrapnel at 300hp, and the renault and audi ones will shrapnel at 600hp if not before.

                Shame, because you can reduce the wheelie problem by mid mounting it, and you can get brand new beach buggy bodies (LWB - no cutting the VW floorpan which means RTA doesn't chuck a spack).

                http://www.sharpbuilt.com.au/dunebug.htm

                I'd look at a 4 cyl LC/LJ/TA torana and go the hilux motor same as the dudes that transplanted one into a 180SX did. 4 cyl torrie was less than 800kg and the 'lux motor with some effort will do it.
                Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons


                Originally posted by seedyrom
                my neighbours called the cops...... not because of the sound of me working in the garage was too loud, but because i taped a cardboard box to my back, covered my self in vaseline and pretended i was a snail on their lawn

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                  #113
                  all diffs suck power, but I would imagine the higher the ratio the more power they would absorb. Prob better with a revvy motor and a low diff than having a diff at 2:1
                  Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons


                  Originally posted by seedyrom
                  my neighbours called the cops...... not because of the sound of me working in the garage was too loud, but because i taped a cardboard box to my back, covered my self in vaseline and pretended i was a snail on their lawn

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                    #114
                    procharged small block making 1400 rwhp (which it would be close to by the time you get the engine in..)
                    This is a post i wrote by mistake, which is nice...

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                      #115
                      Alloy small block/glide/D44 in a Hilux cab/chassis with a few lightening tricks I've picked up = 1100kg......but that aint what I'm building
                      I own a two and a half litre Commodore

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                        #116
                        What does a Viper weigh? I've got a video somewhere of a twin turbo V10 producing 2000hp. Street car too.

                        Cal.
                        The most dangerous risk of all - the risk of spending your life not doing what you want, on the bet you can buy yourself the freedom to do it later. - Randy Komisar.

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                          #117
                          hilux chassis + beach buggy glass body + VH45 with twin turbos, tricked auto and 9".
                          Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons


                          Originally posted by seedyrom
                          my neighbours called the cops...... not because of the sound of me working in the garage was too loud, but because i taped a cardboard box to my back, covered my self in vaseline and pretended i was a snail on their lawn

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                            #118
                            See that wasn't so hard, was it?

                            I own a two and a half litre Commodore

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                              #119
                              Ya buncha poofters.
                              This is what you need.



                              Brabham BT53 - 1470hp in qualifying trim, about 600kg.

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                                #120
                                I think it might need mud guards and lights and ground clearance and shit for rego Bill... :p
                                Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons


                                Originally posted by seedyrom
                                my neighbours called the cops...... not because of the sound of me working in the garage was too loud, but because i taped a cardboard box to my back, covered my self in vaseline and pretended i was a snail on their lawn

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