QLD Govt. bans drifting at Mt. Cotton (street drift is best obviously)

[smellytofu]

You will have to educate me on how a racetrack promote illegal activities!?

Putting on my Harold Scuby hat, it's promotes excessive speeding. That in itself is enough. Of course I don't think like that but if that's the training of though that is used to ban "illegal" activities of any nature (drifing just so happens to be the one named), then speeding is also "illegal" coz you are providing an area where illegal activities are promoted.

The WSID place was built to take "illegal" activities off the streets, then why isn't drifting taken off? as well as speeding which is already catered by normal racetracks? then burnout comps? Who knows what the next craze is in Australia, but if they aren't taken off the streets, you'll be certain to find them out on public roads.

For me, isn't that racetracks are all about? I don't barrel up and down the twisty roads at full pace.. I save up whatever antisocial activities for the racetrack.

[CXTdreamer]

Since they started regular drift days in Adelaide street drifting has died in the arse. There used to be big crowds on the side of the road and heaps of cars every wet night at the decent spots. Now... Nothing

[TonyJZX]

For me, isn't that racetracks are all about? I don't barrel up and down the twisty roads at full pace.. I save up whatever antisocial activities for the racetrack.

Well it's the mass pussification of society.

Unless you conform to their stereotype you can piss off. That's fine, I mean it's not my racetrack and I really don't care if they only allow stock Commodores follwing the racing line on there. There's just some people here who want to push their wheelbarrow just like people out *there*.

[GSRman]

buzz: nah i see him about 3 times a week anyway.. we go to the same coffee shop.. and i accuse him of only becoming a cop to get the leather pants i've known him for a while.

[Merry Vanly Stan]

Since they started regular drift days in Adelaide street drifting has died in the arse. There used to be big crowds on the side of the road and heaps of cars every wet night at the decent spots. Now... Nothing

they still have regular drift days at queensland raceway.

and if someone thinks the lack of off-street venues makes street drifting okay then they're obviously short a few brain cells. same thing if they think the time it takes to drive to QR makes street drifting okay too.

they can't use the lvma at mt cotton for regular drifting events as it'll destroy the ashphalt

[Cal]

Although I think this is a bit retarded, I can't see much changing really. It's a skidpan, cars are going to go sideways. They just sound like they will be a little more scrupulous in deciding who can and can't use the venue.

Cal.

[GaryD]

Looks like the QLD government wants to ban turbocharged cars for under 25s anyway. Problem solved

[Cal]

As I thought, storm in a tea cup. Posted on another forum: "its not true...
my brother in law works at the skidpan as an instructor at mt cotton..
and he still has a job there =)
he said its all b/s
they only mean if ur "hooning" eg. rev. limiter all way around the track and making too much noise (eg. exhaust is too loud)"

Cal.

[itsnotagsr]

Cant we just ban Silvias??

Best suggestion yet

On a serious note, Mt Cotton is a great complex, but there have been big problems with noise limits. They have a noise restriction of under 90db I think, or some similarly ridiculously low number. I can't see any dori-doris being under that. So I say bring on drifting there so long as your car meets the noise limit (ie its never going to happen with 4" cannons etc :D).

[Nero]

90dB would have most of victoria banned. Its 75 at PI and Sandown on a club day...tyre noise can be a problem if it gets tighter!

[hrd]

I don't see the problem.

the driver training facility is owned by state government - QLD Transport. QLD transport built the facility for driver training to progress road safety. They have also just announced a range of restrictions for under 25yo L and P plate drivers.

Drifting is not consistent with their policy or charter. Encouraging people to participate in drifting does nothing to enhance road safety, and considering the demographic that is interested in drifting, and their cars of choice, it isn't consistent with the recently announced initiatives either. I think they should go further with those changes and mandate competancy based defensive and advanced driver training for under 25's.

for people who want to drift, QR holds regular friday night and weekend drift practice session. There are other skidpan facilities around SEQ also if clubs want to organise drift days at skidpans. Or these enthusiasts could go and do a motorkhana, and see how good they really are - if they can get over their fear of stopwatches! So they have plenty of options.

[IMOA]

A few years back A group of us from this forum hired Mt Cotton to do some car control exercises, this involved wetting/dieseling the track and driving around sideways. We had a few silvias, some wrxs and a gtr, had a great night and learned a lot about car control. I'm led to believe that this was a common sort of event for the Mt Cotton track. What I'd love someone to explain to me is if "drifting" is banned how events such as this would also not be banned.

hrd - we've run two supersprints and taken FTD at both. We have no fear of stopwatches however a lot of circuit racers who like to look down their noses at people doing anything different to what they do are developing a healthy fear of drifters. It's really no fun owning an HRT 427, Z06, ex V8 Supercar, group A car or modded 911 if one of those dirty silvias with stickers comes out on street rubber and beats you.

[Nero]

bc you wet the track??...lots less noise and no smoke?
FTD is impressive, but it also depends on the quality of the field. There is no reason why a silvia should not be fast, but a car setup for drifting is not necessarily well setup for racing.

[hrd]

A few years back A group of us from this forum hired Mt Cotton to do some car control exercises, this involved wetting/dieseling the track and driving around sideways. We had a few silvias, some wrxs and a gtr, had a great night and learned a lot about car control. I'm led to believe that this was a common sort of event for the Mt Cotton track. What I'd love someone to explain to me is if "drifting" is banned how events such as this would also not be banned.

hrd - we've run two supersprints and taken FTD at both. We have no fear of stopwatches however a lot of circuit racers who like to look down their noses at people doing anything different to what they do are developing a healthy fear of drifters. It's really no fun owning an HRT 427, Z06, ex V8 Supercar, group A car or modded 911 if one of those dirty silvias with stickers comes out on street rubber and beats you.

relax mate, the fear of stopwatches comment was just a joke.

if you got FTD at the first sprint you ever entered, that says more about the quality of the competition than you. by street tyres, are you referring to semi-slicks, or normal street tyres?

fear of drifters! :rotflol:

[260BC]

hrd, you obviously missed a recent topic where a drifter spanked all comers at a Wakefield Park sprint. This sort of motorsport snobbery concerning drifting is bizarre, I don't drift but respect the car control shown by the good ones as would most genuine enthusuasts I think.

Still, some of us are so shit hot........