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    #31
    yeah remember though michael had a very big say in who his team mates were before they were signed.


    Originally posted by itsnotagsr
    I think his preferential treatment was justified given that he was far better than his teammates. As a team, wouldn't you back your best chance?

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      #32
      Originally posted by jampac
      I'll probably cop a bit of shit for this, but I personally don't think his the greatest driver ever. His good, but not great. There has been far greater legends in F1 than shoey. I personally think Jim Clark was the best driver ever because he could race just about anything with wheels and win. Sad that he died so early in his career. Then there is senna. need I say more.
      Yeah, but Clark was racing during a period where F1 drivers had a go at anything with 4 wheels, including Le Mans/sportscars, Indy, stock saloon cars and F2.

      There's no way an F1 star would be allowed to risk himself by racing in a junior category today, and there is nothing to suggest that Schuey wouldn't be just as stunning in say a production car category...
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        #33
        Didnt he suck when they got him and ... was it Sainz? to swap cars?
        WWPBD

        Originally posted by InsaneAsylum
        first time i was in sydney, i asked the cabbie to tell a bit about the place. he said "this here oxford st, you see 2 man, they are poofter"
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          #34
          Originally posted by Sturmovik
          So what about the other 5 championship wins? Luck

          What about them?

          Winning them doesnt diminish the acts he committed in other seasons.

          Be like saying its ok that Tyson raped a women or ten because he could knock other boxers out.
          Originally posted by brasher
          TJ is 99% African American.

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            #35
            Yeah, because Schumacher is a felon..... comparing those two is as ridiculous as comparing drivers from other eras to drivers of today..... a complete wank.
            Nathan

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              #36
              No, its like saying Tyson is a shit boxer because he was accused with rape. Fact is he was one of the greatest boxers ever, regardless of his off-ring antics.

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                #37
                Unfortunately we are more then just robots, so we do have emotional thought.

                If his morals stoop as low to do what he did then, and even Monaco this year, then his ranking to me falls for it. Same as Senna, people forgot he did some questionable things because he was good.

                Someone like Sato does it and its bag city.
                Originally posted by brasher
                TJ is 99% African American.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sturmovik
                  No, its like saying Tyson is a shit boxer because he was accused with rape. Fact is he was one of the greatest boxers ever, regardless of his off-ring antics.


                  The thing is to be the greatest you must want nothing less than to win at all costs. The F1 world championship is not a popularity or beauty contest. You don't win because you're a nice guy. Otherwise Webber would be a multiple champion!

                  Some of the greatest driving I've seen is that last race in Hungary. Sure he tangled with Heidfeld and lost out. But did you see the condition of his tyres? He did a double stint on the same used intermediate tyres when everyone else was on slicks. Yet somehow he was able to stick with the leaders (although losing time). I think that absolute desire to win made him a champion. Any other driver would have pitted again, but Schumi put it all on black in an effort to claw back the points.
                  "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                  "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                  (TM - AVENGE)

                  "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Teejay
                    Unfortunately we are more then just robots, so we do have emotional thought.

                    If his morals stoop as low to do what he did then, and even Monaco this year, then his ranking to me falls for it. Same as Senna, people forgot he did some questionable things because he was good.

                    Someone like Sato does it and its bag city.
                    Nice guys finish last TJ
                    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                    "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                    (TM - AVENGE)

                    "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
                    Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02

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                      #40
                      Or they throw it off the track on a regular basis :D

                      I'm sure Taku is a *really* nice guy though
                      Nathan

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                      Official Photographer 2019 | Shannons Nationals | Porsche Michelin GT3 Cup Challenge | Hi-Tec Oils Bathurst 6 Hour | Superloop Adelaide 500 | Challenge Bathurst

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by itsnotagsr
                        Nice guys finish last TJ

                        So Webbers Williams keeps imploding because he is too nice?
                        Originally posted by brasher
                        TJ is 99% African American.

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                          #42
                          Anyone else think that this is a perfect opportunity for Flav and Renault, for whom Schumi drove for at Beneton to sign up Schumi for next year? He'd be better than Fisi!
                          "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                          "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                          (TM - AVENGE)

                          "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
                          Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Teejay
                            So Webbers Williams keeps imploding because he is too nice?
                            Yeah, anyone not nice would have snapped and found another team

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                              #44
                              TJay

                              One of the big F1 forums ran a whole post on the Schumacher and Hill Incident, they gathered telementary (sp?) and all various sorts of data and discussed it fairly. The outcome was it was a racing incident... Which I believe it was, come on, the car was damaged from Schumachers intial wall hit.

                              The Villeneuve incident was very poor, Scumacher has publically stated that, that one incident is his biggest regret in his racing career.

                              As someone said before, you'll tell your grandkids, I saw Schumacher race.....

                              He is the perfect race driver. Arrogant, Unstoppable Winning desire and gifted....
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by AndyMac
                                He is the perfect race driver. Arrogant, Unstoppable Winning desire and gifted....
                                Agreed. He might not have had a heap of personality but I actually admire the fact that he'd do almost anything to win - that's what racing is all about and anyone who's competed seriously will understand where he came from. Being a nice guy doesn't get you championships.
                                Originally posted by Mr Jones
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