F1 Abu Dhabi

[9triton]

They arnt allowed to Dale - the engines are sealed.

as to how they know if they have to change any parts - NFI - but assume they have some fancy condition monitoring methods/techniques

from FIA regs :

5.18 Replacing engine parts :
The parts in lists A and B below may be changed without incurring a penalty under Article 28.4 of the F1
Sporting Regulations. If changing any of these parts involves breaking a seal this may be done but must
carried out under FIA supervision. The parts in List B may only be replaced by identical homologated parts
in accordance with Appendix 4 of the F1 Sporting Regulations.
List A
- Clutch
- Clutch basket
- Hydraulic pumps
- Engine electronic boxes (ECU's, power modules, control boxes)
- Fuel filters
- Fuel pumps
- Oil filters
- Oil tank systems
- Pneumatic bottles, regulators, pumps and pipes for valve actuation
- Exhaust systems
- Supports and brackets related to the auxiliaries, mentioned above
- Screws, nuts, dowels or washers related to the auxiliaries, mentioned above
- Cables, tubes or hoses related to the auxiliaries, mentioned above
- Oil or air seals related to the auxiliaries, mentioned above
- Spark plugs
List B
- Throttle system (including but not limited to throttle device, linkage, actuator, hydraulics)
- Intake system external to cylinder head (including but not limited to trumpets, trumpet tray, air box,
air filter)
- Ignition coils
- Injection system
- Alternators
- Oil scavenging pumps
- Oil supply pumps
- Oil air separators
- Water pumps
- Electric and electronic sensors

[SuperDave]

Used oil analysis, info from sensors and historical data, pulling the plugs out and seeing what the cylinders look like inside (I'm sure they wuold have designed other inspection holes too).

[SELfor50]

mark just NEEDS to put it on pole

100%


Make sure you set your alarms for this...
http://ten.com.au/tvguide_synopsis.h...n__3657027.xml

[GTREA]

My ideal scenario this weekend.

Sebastian Vettel winning race 5 laps from end.
Mark Webber 2nd
Fernado Alonso 3rd.

Fernado is going to win WDC.

RBR team orders (or off Sebastians own back) Webber is let thru into lead.

Final lap Alonsos motor blows.

Vettel did'nt need to let Webber thru and would have won WDC.

I would LMFAO :D

[GSRman]

it would be bitter sweet to see vettel put it into a wall.. webber 1 alonso 2..

[GSRman]

[<---cop]

i would put money on a few other people letting alonso past if he is in 6th so that webber can win...

^^ This man, he knows.

[TJ]

as to how they know if they have to change any parts - NFI - but assume they have some fancy condition monitoring methods/techniques

from FIA regs :

Notice how none of your list is actually the motor itself?

It cannot be opened under those regs.

[willsy01]

[Bogan]

Notice how none of your list is actually the motor itself?

It cannot be opened under those regs.

From FIA regs :

5.18 Replacing engine parts :
The parts in lists A and B below may be changed without incurring a penalty under Article 28.4 of the F1 Sporting Regulations. If changing any of these parts involves breaking a seal this may be done but must be carried out under FIA supervision. The parts in List B may only be replaced by identical homologated parts in accordance with Appendix 4 of the F1 Sporting Regulations.
List A
**snip**
- Spark plugs

No problem, they just need a gynecologist on the team, he could do a full engine rebuild through #1 spark plug hole.

[GSRman]

what if "we have a stuck spark plug, we need to remove the head to clear it"

[Road Warrior]

Make sure you set your alarms for this...
http://ten.com.au/tvguide_synopsis.h...n__3657027.xml

It's not so clear from that but it's on One/OneHD and not Ten... (as per prev post)

[9triton]

Notice how none of your list is actually the motor itself?

It cannot be opened under those regs.

its not my list - its the FIA's.



are you referring to , that you cant willy nilly tear down down a motor to inspect - yeah i agree

and suspect that the FIA dont have 1st year apprentices supervising , such that you could pull the wool over their eyes and whip in a new crank / rods etc etc ,

thus would need to make a fairly convincing case to break any seals .

without knowing the engines layouts there maybe components on the list that are inside the engine - ie oil pumps

but now i know what can and cant be replaced

[St00ge]

From what I have read in the past the teams pull down and re assemble the motors more often than you think, I would say they would replace everything that they can after each race...

[takai]

They certainly used to, but now with the limited number of engines i think that is a bit harder