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    Originally posted by CT View Post
    race and have fun
    << that would be me. The goal being get the most out of the equipment you have. If I do that I am satisfied, regardless of finishing position.

    10 road registered examples is too few for a 'Production Sports' category. 100.... then you have a Prod Sports model. 10 is a Specialist Sports car.
    Insert pithy comment here "........."

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      Originally posted by CT View Post
      Oh yes please! My LS7 with 640hp into an MX5 at 1100kgs would be SO MUCH AWESOMES! Then the porker guys will whinge, and the lotuses will want to run F1 engines, then the Lambo guys will stick Veyron engines in and blah blah blah blah.....it will never end. All for a $20 trophy....

      I think that people forget it's up the individual competitor to pick the right car, based on the rules at the time. If you want to run a slow shitbox because you like it - up to you. If you want to run the latest and greatest , again up to you (and you bank manager). It always comes back to car selection to fit the category - either race and have fun - or race to win. They are different. :)
      Don't think Cal was being serious with his LS engine MX5 comment and anyway an unlimited choice of engines would lead to needing F1 type budgets.
      Richard's DatsunZ lappin LakesidZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSh...&feature=g-upl

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        Originally posted by scuffers View Post
        bit late, already been done (with a V8)

        http://www.bulletcars.com/cars/

        and it's 2B listed (as in they went about doing the job properly)
        Well aware of what a Bullet is. They are shit.
        The most dangerous risk of all - the risk of spending your life not doing what you want, on the bet you can buy yourself the freedom to do it later. - Randy Komisar.

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          "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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            He means they got it on the CAMS vehicle list properly. As apposed to other cars which got on the CUE list for a bottle of single malt.
            The most dangerous risk of all - the risk of spending your life not doing what you want, on the bet you can buy yourself the freedom to do it later. - Randy Komisar.

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              Originally posted by Gammaboy View Post
              I wouldn't say replacing a decent SLA front end with pogo sticks is "doing the job properly"

              LS powered MX5 would be fantastic, except you'd never get it legal under NCOP.
              Do you reckon it would be fantastic? I don't really know but would think that a LS would over power the chassis.
              Richard's DatsunZ lappin LakesidZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSh...&feature=g-upl

              “Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit.”
              ― Jim C. Hines

              “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
              ― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

              “Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets..”
              ― Napoleon Bonaparte

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                Originally posted by Cal View Post
                Well aware of what a Bullet is. They are shit.
                I'm sure they love you too!

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                  10 brand new road registered ADR approved road cars is sufficient, and quite difficult for a low volume manufacturer.

                  10 second hand cars that have had a common modification is a different story altogether.

                  -Jamie

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                    Blokes with expensive late model cars don't want to be owned by some upgraded oldie :) Not that a good upgraded oldie would be cheap, I'd guess for a Zed a very minimum of $50k but more likely much closer to $100k. Which means that no one is going to spend that sort of money on a car unless they can race or targa it competitively.
                    Richard's DatsunZ lappin LakesidZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSh...&feature=g-upl

                    “Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit.”
                    ― Jim C. Hines

                    “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
                    ― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

                    “Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets..”
                    ― Napoleon Bonaparte

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                      Originally posted by 260DET View Post
                      Do you reckon it would be fantastic? I don't really know but would think that a LS would over power the chassis.
                      Dunno - but I'd like to try though!
                      A slow day at the track is better than any day in the office.

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                        Originally posted by 260DET View Post
                        Blokes with expensive late model cars don't want to be owned by some upgraded oldie :) Not that a good upgraded oldie would be cheap, I'd guess for a Zed a very minimum of $50k but more likely much closer to $100k. Which means that no one is going to spend that sort of money on a car unless they can race or targa it competitively.
                        i can believe it.. it's hard enough finding one with a decent shell/rust free imo
                        Originally posted by Walt Kowalski
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                          Sure you can build up an oldie and be competitive. I can appreciate the effort and skill that would go into that. But why bother? You can buy a cup car that will do a 24hr race without issue. All the parts are available off the shelf. All you need to do is change the tyres and occassionally, oils and pads. For most people thats the perfect option. I've seen plenty of backyard/workshop cars with lots of money spent on them (eg pro-duct RX7, etc) that needed 10 people working on them each weekend and they still got beaten by people like Pye etc in fairly stock (at the time) cup cars.
                          "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                          "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                          (TM - AVENGE)

                          "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
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                            Originally posted by itsnotagsr View Post
                            Sure you can build up an oldie and be competitive. I can appreciate the effort and skill that would go into that. But why bother? You can buy a cup car that will do a 24hr race without issue. All the parts are available off the shelf. All you need to do is change the tyres and occassionally, oils and pads. For most people thats the perfect option. I've seen plenty of backyard/workshop cars with lots of money spent on them (eg pro-duct RX7, etc) that needed 10 people working on them each weekend and they still got beaten by people like Pye etc in fairly stock (at the time) cup cars.
                            Yep, absolutely, to build a reasonably reliable and competitive oldie requires dedicated and sublime attention to detail too, as well as the dollars. But for your average punter watching everyone drive the same sort of car is boring compared with watching a mixed field.
                            Richard's DatsunZ lappin LakesidZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSh...&feature=g-upl

                            “Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit.”
                            ― Jim C. Hines

                            “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
                            ― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

                            “Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets..”
                            ― Napoleon Bonaparte

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                              Originally posted by itsnotagsr View Post
                              Sure you can build up an oldie and be competitive. I can appreciate the effort and skill that would go into that. But why bother? You can buy a cup car that will do a 24hr race without issue. All the parts are available off the shelf. All you need to do is change the tyres and occassionally, oils and pads. For most people thats the perfect option. I've seen plenty of backyard/workshop cars with lots of money spent on them (eg pro-duct RX7, etc) that needed 10 people working on them each weekend and they still got beaten by people like Pye etc in fairly stock (at the time) cup cars.
                              When Bill Pye came back to race with us after a couple of years away, he was spewing at how fast the MX5 turbos were - when I told him I had around 190rwkw, he was aghast and turned up at the next meeting with a new engine in his GT3. I noticed he was quicker and went and said g'day to him - his first words to me were..."how do you like my new engine?" Nice guy and strong steerer is Bill - with a wallet to match.
                              A slow day at the track is better than any day in the office.

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                                Yet more blind stupidity....

                                http://www.prodsports.com.au/#!news/ce71

                                So, there we have it, committee members husband's car is illegal, so rather than deal with this, move the goal posts and create a class for it.

                                Then form a tech committee with person responsible for putting out this illegal car and cook the rules to suit.

                                In the mean time, ignore all input from others, pontificate for 12+ months, don't bother communicating with the membership, and wonder why you have no grid left...



                                Nice.....

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