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    I think Dan has made the best move available. Hopefully it translates to wins.

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      Race wins are possible in a fez, I don't think they are possible in a mclaren - happy to be surprised -

      I do get the feeling that Renault might bail before the new regs though
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        Nice upgrade on the Company car for Dan - lol Cyril acting like a jilted 13 year old

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          I wonder if Dan took a pay cut? There were many $$$ to lure him to go to Renault

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            Just saw a headline saying McLaren are paying him 17.5 million per year. I didn't read the article so no idea if that was dollars or pounds.

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              I really don’t understand why Ferrari took Sainz or DR.
              DR is a way better and faster driver.
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                Some articles are saying he is getting more at McLaren.

                I wonder if there'll be a few swaps this year, cannot see Renault wanting to continue with Dan this year.

                Little note, in pretty sure the Mercedes deal with McLaren is just a customer engine deal, unlike their previous association, which was a works or semi-works arrangement.

                Hopefully that chassis is actually THAT good.
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                  Originally posted by Uwish View Post
                  I really don’t understand why Ferrari took Sainz or DR.
                  DR is a way better and faster driver.
                  maybe he didn't want to be a #2 in every way except on paper to charlie.
                  i believe he is equal to charlie in the car, but Ferrari haven't had an equal opportunity policy for a long long time

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                    Some big losers in this silly season. Realistically Ferrari was the best seat in the market (ie Merc and RB not open) and they picked Sainz. Says a lot about the pool they had to pick from.
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                      I read a couple of articles last night after all of the announcements. Moving from Renault to McLaren is definitely a good step for Dan. They are a better long term team (as in they are going to be here for the long haul), they'll have a better motor and they have a MUCH better management team (Zac and Andreas Seidl). I think he has way more (but still small) chance of winning at McLaren than Renault. Ferrari would have had a better chance of winning next year, but the experience would have been much worse (definite number 2, etc).
                      Plus company car upgrade and a much better team mate is a massive plus.
                      I'd be surprised if he's getting 17.5mil anything at the moment. McLaren has been one of the loudest teams talking about struggling with finances.
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                        Originally posted by Uwish View Post
                        I really don’t understand why Ferrari took Sainz or DR.
                        DR is a way better and faster driver.
                        Is he?

                        Sainz has shown he is more than capable.
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                          i think the lando and daniel social media show is going to be entertaining / hilarious next year.

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                            It's not always about the money when you are chasing a trophy, get that first, then get the money, then the bitches.
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                              So - randomly flicked over foxtel the other day and there was some sort of V8 supercar racing E-series - and one of the F1 guys was driving and like came third..

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                              This is a post i wrote by mistake, which is nice...

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                                Originally posted by AndyMac View Post
                                Some articles are saying he is getting more at McLaren.

                                I wonder if there'll be a few swaps this year, cannot see Renault wanting to continue with Dan this year.

                                Little note, in pretty sure the Mercedes deal with McLaren is just a customer engine deal, unlike their previous association, which was a works or semi-works arrangement.

                                Hopefully that chassis is actually THAT good.
                                Only internet hearsay, but the Merc customer engine deal is they get the same spec as the works team. How that packages into their chassis is their problem. Ferrari on the other hand, a customer team has only won once.

                                I'm thinking Dan is angling for a Merc seat when Hamilton retires or Bottas gets the boot. Being in a McLaren puts him closer to that than if he was in a Renault. But who isn't trying to get a Merc seat.
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