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    To change the discussion a little...

    I get the tradition of Bathurst being a co-driver/endurance event but does anyone else feel the concept needs a change up?

    How would it go as a one driver event of say 100 laps?

    I know all the purists would be triggered, and it would throw a spanner in it regarding sponsorship and TV deals etc.

    Driver fitness and car reliability has come a long way and I've always thought that a drivers result in championship being dependent on a co-drivers performance is a bit stiff.

    Is there room for the endurance part of the series to be stand alone with points not part of the main championship?

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      Originally posted by Southo View Post


      I am not worried about what he drives, who he drives for or what he has won. I am pissed off with his fucking "me me" me attitude and how he has fucked over his team and co-drivers on way too many occasions...
      I thought that is what winners do ... Schumacher, Senna, Prost, Brock, etc etc

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        Originally posted by jack-jack View Post
        To change the discussion a little...

        I get the tradition of Bathurst being a co-driver/endurance event but does anyone else feel the concept needs a change up?

        How would it go as a one driver event of say 100 laps?

        I know all the purists would be triggered, and it would throw a spanner in it regarding sponsorship and TV deals etc.

        Driver fitness and car reliability has come a long way and I've always thought that a drivers result in championship being dependent on a co-drivers performance is a bit stiff.

        Is there room for the endurance part of the series to be stand alone with points not part of the main championship?
        Bathurst for many many years was a stand alone event, and then part of the seperate manufacturers championship which was made up of endurance events after the ATCC was run. So what you are suggesting is not new.

        In terms of the distance, yes you will have the purists triggered.....

        However, Bathurst can stand on its own no matter what the cars competing. Remember Bathurst started as a series production race and was run as such even though the ATCC was run to improved production rules for a few years. The ARDC only made the race align with the group C regulations because of the supercar scare in 72. And even then it was considered a one off event for many years.

        It didn't become part of the ATCC until the late 90's, so in terms of being part of the championship there is not much tradition there.

        It would be quite easy to go back to the old days of having the ATCC as sprint rounds and a seperate endurance championship for three to five events, which used to be made up of Sandown, Bathurst, Surfers Paradise ( the old circuit) and Philip Island.

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          Well the B12H is not gonna be going ahead in Feb, and its pretty certain Supercars will start the 2021 calendar there.. I'd say it will be a sprint round/no co-drivers before coming back in October for the 1000.
          /csh Racing

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            Which has also been done before, so nothing groundbreaking there.

            Sprint rounds at Bathurst are fun....

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              Didn't they already confirm round 1 would be at the mountain next year?

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                Why would you get rid of the 1000 though?

                Originally posted by brasher
                TJ is 99% African American.

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                  You wouldn’t. And they won’t. It’s nonsense.
                  Originally posted by Rdyno
                  It's fucking storytime with Rdyno cunt shut the fuck up and fuck off.

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                    Originally posted by BeverlyHillsCop View Post
                    Interesting, GRM only dropped the case against Motorsport Australia because Supercars said they would pull his Bathurst Entry if he went ahead with the case...

                    https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/10/20...erne-backflip/
                    I'm ok with that.

                    Organisers are allowed to reject entries.

                    Put yourself in Supercars shoes. They have a set of licence rules, initiated at their request.

                    They have someone who doesn't want to play by those rules. Someone that is going to make them spend money on lawyers.

                    Fcuk that. I'd reject the entry too.

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                      Doubt you'd see a 100 lap Bathurst sole driver, because of seat time limitations.

                      I believe that's an overarching FIA reg, non-negotiable. We've seen plenty of V8 super athletes rooted in the past from far less. That kiwi who won last weekend couldn't get out of a car, was it 2 or 3 years ago, after 1 stint? Best part of 4 hrs in the chair, good luck!

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                        Originally posted by jack-jack View Post
                        To change the discussion a little...

                        I get the tradition of Bathurst being a co-driver/endurance event but does anyone else feel the concept needs a change up?

                        How would it go as a one driver event of say 100 laps?

                        I know all the purists would be triggered, and it would throw a spanner in it regarding sponsorship and TV deals etc.

                        Driver fitness and car reliability has come a long way and I've always thought that a drivers result in championship being dependent on a co-drivers performance is a bit stiff.

                        Is there room for the endurance part of the series to be stand alone with points not part of the main championship?
                        Agree about the status - it should be a standalone event. (Or part of an Endurance championship that is separate to the main series).

                        I'd keep the format - far too much history there, but I do understand what you are saying.

                        For mine, it's got a little bit too professional? Not quite the right word, but it's no longer an endurance event in the manner it used to be. Finishing isn't really an achievement. The cars are super reliable and can be driven flat out all day, and they are all very same same. I could put forward an argument that 1,000km is too short. We are only one safety car away from a sub 6 hour race.

                        If I was king, I'd open the event up to Super 2/3 cars, and make it stand alone. Make it special, not just a longer round of the championship.

                        Having said that, in many ways, the Bathurst 6 hour is much closer to what the 1000 used to be than the 1000 is these days. Class racing, big fields, and an event that is accessible to privateers.

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                          All good points guys👍

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                            Originally posted by 36 View Post

                            Agree about the status - it should be a standalone event. (Or part of an Endurance championship that is separate to the main series).

                            I'd keep the format - far too much history there, but I do understand what you are saying.

                            For mine, it's got a little bit too professional? Not quite the right word, but it's no longer an endurance event in the manner it used to be. Finishing isn't really an achievement. The cars are super reliable and can be driven flat out all day, and they are all very same same. I could put forward an argument that 1,000km is too short. We are only one safety car away from a sub 6 hour race.

                            If I was king, I'd open the event up to Super 2/3 cars, and make it stand alone. Make it special, not just a longer round of the championship.

                            Having said that, in many ways, the Bathurst 6 hour is much closer to what the 1000 used to be than the 1000 is these days. Class racing, big fields, and an event that is accessible to privateers.
                            It is open to Super2 cars.

                            They simply can't afford to do it.
                            Originally posted by brewdles
                            In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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                              Originally posted by Bob Vegana. View Post

                              It is open to Super2 cars.

                              They simply can't afford to do it.
                              I imagine once Gen 3 lands they will have chance to do it either.
                              Originally posted by brasher
                              TJ is 99% African American.

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                                Penske Exits Supercars!

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