how to start a driftland or park?

[Klint]

what is actually required to start a place like that?
land
what permit?
can it be done w/o involving CAMS?
public liability insurance?
of course money

it seem like a good idea for drift practice and skid pan training, instead of doing it in some deserted carpark or industral area.

[Nafe]

Isn't there dedicated skidpan facilities in Brisbane? Or is it a fair distance away?

Queensland Raceway has drift sessions don't they? Or is it only for the major competitions?

[Klint]

i want this facility to be easy to use, just like going to a karting place. open daily.

thinking of something similar to Ebisu driftland as seen in the drift bible

[XAC15T]

won't you need insurace for it? that'll be exxy!

[CussCuss]

wakefield park manage to do it for $90 a day per person.

[Klint]

insurance is definitely a must for any business,
what else is required?

[JabberWocky]

Concrete?

[Kiahatsiu]

Hmmm. I think that driving to QR on a "Drift day" or on a lap sprint day and handing over your hard earned is pretty easy. How much easier do you want it?
I know that the sprint days have emergency crews on hand, and I imagine that the "drift days" do too. I don't think there is anything you could do create a "drift world" cheaper than just paying to go to QR.

[Klint]

thinking of asphalt as it is cheaper than concrete.

it is meant to be a low speed training ground in preperation for say like Drift day in QR

We can only use QR only on certain days such as "drift day".
I want it to be as easy as going to karting or any other form of entainment: just drop in or do a booking to reserve a spot
maybe open 24hr on weekend

[efto]

Would be extremely difficult, expensive and time consuminmg if your council is anything like mine to get the development permits required to even commence construction. Probably need evironmental impact statements, noise pollution studies, Increased road traffic analysis. Land would have to be a special zoning i would imagine. Thats only the planning stage, then youve got the construction stage and once its up and runing the adminstration costs.
Insurances - public liability (min 20mill cover), Property insurance and thats providing that an insurance company will cover your business as it would be considered a high risk.

[Nero]

say 2-3 million?
I know the proposed replacement track for Mrowell Parke has a reported budget of 2 million for 900m of track.

[efto]

yes definatley would be in the millions of dollars. Good idea but very hard to achieve.

[coyote]

I like snow skiing but live in Brisbane.

I think the council should build a dome over Mt Cootha and charge me $10 a day to go skiing.

No, it should be free and I should be allowed to bring my gun and practice for the winter olympics.

[Klint]

efto,
that's what i want to know whether it is feasable.
i've already have the course plan from japan. it's quite small....the estimated size of the drift practice park is only 160metre by 110metre with 20 cars pit.
of course i would need a bit more land for admin block, car pack,....

[Nafe]

You would need to have emergency towing vehicles, fire marshalls and equipment etc too. Costs are not limited to the land and buildings, there will be council fees/rates etc.

No way you can do 24Hr unless you're in the middle of fricken nowhere with no houses around for over 100kms in any direction. Even the Oran Park Drift Nights have to be done by 9pm because of the noise.....and there aren't a lot of houses near OP....

Edit: you would also need to be associated with CAMS or AASA unless you want to try and obtain and administer your own Public Liability Insurance. That will be a killer too.