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    #31
    Originally posted by GSRman View Post
    #Truth

    If you pull a factory bulb - is the corresponding led still dim?
    yep,
    One of the first things I tried..
    * If I remove a factory incandescent globe from the vehicle, the others flash faster, but there is no change to the LED indicator brightness.

    I have all but given up on these LEDs -

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      #32
      Originally posted by Southo View Post

      I will chat to my Alarm dude and see if there is an easy way to do this, but he assured me that the Alarm doesn't connect through the factory flasher relay and actually has it's own relay for this purpose... - this is why he suggestes that the Alarm signal is providing a better brightness to the LEDs... I will ask though...
      I wonder what would happen if the alarm feed is disconnected from this circuit?? No idea who/what your alarm guy is like, but 90% of guys will always blame someone/something else before considering their part could be an issue. Not saying it is, but the weirdness of what is going on suggests something is not quite right (is there some weird backfeed going on), again - its not necessarily anything wrong with his alarm - just in your situation with your led's, its not happy. A scope should show the issue, but you need access to one. Maybe check with your alarm guy and see if it could be disconnected (I am sure there will be no end of kicking/screaming and excuses as to why it isnt, but its worth a try). Simple fault finding - get it back to the bare basics (ie remove anything non factory, then re add them individually - process of elimination). This may not actually fix the issue, but it should find the cause (or incompatibility).

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        #33
        Originally posted by vs355 View Post

        I wonder what would happen if the alarm feed is disconnected from this circuit?? No idea who/what your alarm guy is like, but 90% of guys will always blame someone/something else before considering their part could be an issue. Not saying it is, but the weirdness of what is going on suggests something is not quite right (is there some weird backfeed going on), again - its not necessarily anything wrong with his alarm - just in your situation with your led's, its not happy. A scope should show the issue, but you need access to one. Maybe check with your alarm guy and see if it could be disconnected (I am sure there will be no end of kicking/screaming and excuses as to why it isnt, but its worth a try). Simple fault finding - get it back to the bare basics (ie remove anything non factory, then re add them individually - process of elimination). This may not actually fix the issue, but it should find the cause (or incompatibility).
        Already done this, - Alarm guy is a top bloke and good mate, he spent about 90 mins trying to diagnose it., removed the alarm wiring from the Indicator circuit and sadly it made no difference..
        I have found some Clear (as well as smoke tint) indicator lenses that will fit, so I think I am just going to go back to the incandescent Orange globes behind the Clear or Smoke tint Lenses and accept defeat....

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          #34
          Out of interest, have you tried a different LED light?

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            #35
            I don't have another one similar, but I guess I can try an LED "bulb" in the Original Incandescent Bulb indicator housing that came with the bull bar... Will try that this afternoon and report back..

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              #36
              Originally posted by Southo View Post
              I don't have another one similar, but I guess I can try an LED "bulb" in the Original Incandescent Bulb indicator housing that came with the bull bar... Will try that this afternoon and report back..
              OK, Put an LED "bulb" into the standard housing that the Bull Bar came with and it works perfectly..

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                #37
                Fire? have you tried fire?

                crazy man...i mean it has to be a voltage drop.. but the cause?
                This is a post i wrote by mistake, which is nice...

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                  #38
                  Was it wired up the right way?

                  The diodes could be leaky.
                  Originally posted by brewdles
                  In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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                    #39
                    Yeah, definitely wired up correctly, and finally gave up on trying to find the problem and just wired in a Relay to each side and they now work perfectly..
                    Fuck Cars !!

                    Ended up redoing a heap of the wiring and tidying it all up whilst I was there..
                    Fitted a new Bosch N70ZZ battery, Prepped the back of the engine bay for a Dual Battery Tray, ran some extra wires for the Fridge, Recaro Seat Heating and Cooling, 1000W 12/240 Inverter and rear outlets.
                    Fitted and wired in the UHF Radio, Rewired my rear Fog Lights to become brake lights now (Never used them as Foglights anyway) - which now frees up the factory fog light switch and wiring/relay for my rear lights so they can be switched separately other than just with reverse. So yeah, pretty productive day


                    Last edited by Southo; 23-12-19, 10:14 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Southo View Post
                      Yeah, definitely wired up correctly, and finally gave up on trying to find the problem and just wired in a Relay to each side and they now work perfectly..
                      Fuck Cars !!
                      I had a feeling that would be the only way you'd get them to work.

                      In other news...

                      Originally posted by Dark Orange View Post
                      Thread hijack:

                      Have had a quick look for damage to the loom for the right hand park lights but found nothing.

                      It has LED rear lights, so someone in the past has fucked with the wiring, and I didn't actually check to confirm the rear park lights went to the correct fuses.
                      Resolution:
                      Problem found and rectified. As I suspected, the rear park light wiring was swapped when new alloy tray retrofitted by previous owner. Tray broke LHS mounting due to lazy fitment which pinched the LHS wiring loom, shorting the left blinker and right park light wiring together permanently and intermittantly to ground.
                      Is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?

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