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    Adaptronic m1200 triggering

    Im putting an adaptronic m1200 on an engine with a weird crank trigger.

    the tooth count on the crank sprocket is : 16 teeth , 3 missing , 1 tooth , 3 missing , 13 tooth , 3 missing. Is it even possible to use this and how would you configure it? ive read the triggering tutorials and videos but only see examples for sprockets like 60 with 2 missing etc.

    for some more info , the crank signal is reluctor type and the cam signal is hall effect , the cam has 2 teeth for the trigger.
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    If it's a denso setup it sounds like 36-2-2-2 which is pretty common for subarus. 2 on cam is what some subaru have also.

    I assume it's some suzuki engine that noone cares about?
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      #3
      Yes it's a suzuki engine..
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          #5
          Originally posted by JZK25 View Post
          I assume it's some suzuki engine that noone cares about?
          lol.

          unless its already in the drop down list of triggers (or identical to an engine that is) in eugene for the M1200 then you are stuffed. you could write a nice email to adaptronic and send them a scope of a full 720 degree cycle and they might code it for you, but I think the days of Andy doing custom stuff for a random punter are over.

          the generic triggering will only deal with evenly spaced teeth and a single gap of x teeth for a crank reset.

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            #6
            Originally posted by burn is weird View Post
            lol.

            unless its already in the drop down list of triggers (or identical to an engine that is) in eugene for the M1200 then you are stuffed. you could write a nice email to adaptronic and send them a scope of a full 720 degree cycle and they might code it for you, but I think the days of Andy doing custom stuff for a random punter are over.

            the generic triggering will only deal with evenly spaced teeth and a single gap of x teeth for a crank reset.
            Yes of course that was the answer i was expecting , thank you.

            I can get a trigger wheel with 6 evenly spaced triggers off another similar engine.

            would i grind one of the triggers off the cam so it had only 1 home signal or i can keep the 2 teeth on and configure that?

            also on an unrelated question to the adaptronic ...

            what is the difference between a duetche dtm and dt connectors? and is it worth using the gold plated terminals or not ?

            edit: i noticed you said evenly toothed with one missing for the reset , could i not use the 6 evenly spaced on the crank and the cam as a reset ?

            Sorry for the dumb questions last few times ive done aftermarket they were plug and play setups for the triggering.
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              #7
              Originally posted by JZK25 View Post
              If it's a denso setup it sounds like 36-2-2-2 which is pretty common for subarus. 2 on cam is what some subaru have also.

              I assume it's some suzuki engine that noone cares about?
              ok ive looked at the 36-2-2-2 and wow its close except this is 39-3-3-3 so still no dice on getting this to work i guess?

              PS Fuck you and your suzuki hate

              Edited: and thanks , you got it on the first post
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                #8
                Yes you could. You can have zero missing teeth on the crank and that's fine. Only reasons for using missing teeth are

                -You have lots of crank teeth ie 60 and can't guarantee the cam reset will come in between the same two teeth every time due to floppy cam belt. So the the ecu sees the cam and says ok when I get to the gap I'll reset to 0 degrees.

                Without a gap it must say OK when I see the next tooth I'll reset to 0 degrees.

                So even teeth on crank with no missing and a single reset on the cam is what you want.

                Then it's easy to set up in ecu, and you want the cam to come in nowhere near any crank teeth edges when you're working out where to locate it. If it comes in just before a tooth one cycle vs just after a tooth, that's 60 degrees difference in crank timing as far as the ecu is concerned.

                With anything less that 36 crank teeth you don't need a missing crank tooth.

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                  #9
                  ok im an idiot, i just got my ruler on the pic i posted and its -2-2-2 , so i can use the subaru trigger settings for the crank ?

                  Why didnt some other cunt pick up on this..
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                    #10
                    You're right. It is 2-2-2

                    13-m-16-m-m. Same as Subaru H4 engines. Will have two cam signals too

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                      #11
                      Thanks burn , i think im on a winner , this looks identical to the subaru setup.

                      im a dumb cunt , visually it looked like 3 missing teeth , its only when i had the image in front of me and measured it it was 2 , and it was late in the afternoon and beer o clock when i took the pic..
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                        #12
                        FYI don't put an Adaptronic in a plane please
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jason Broadhurst View Post
                          FYI don't put an Adaptronic in a plane please
                          Fucking hell.

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                            #14
                            What about 2 adaptronics?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by suzuki dave View Post
                              Im putting an adaptronic m1200 on an engine with a weird crank trigger.

                              the tooth count on the crank sprocket is : 16 teeth , 3 missing , 1 tooth , 3 missing , 13 tooth , 3 missing. Is it even possible to use this and how would you configure it? ive read the triggering tutorials and videos but only see examples for sprockets like 60 with 2 missing etc.

                              for some more info , the crank signal is reluctor type and the cam signal is hall effect , the cam has 2 teeth for the trigger.
                              Out of interest -
                              a) have you ever done a firmware update on your M1200
                              b) did it explode shortly after if so?

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