What cars don't have power steering AND have low ratio?

[GaryD]

my 97 micra doesnt have power steering

[Nero]

FWIW we have a PS rack in the Malaysian race car and for the last four years have had the hydraulics disconnected with no problems.

its not so much wether it will work or not, it HAS to be approved by the ginger beer.

[Nero]

will have a look at the camira rack

[Jim]

i have one under the house if you want dimensions and pics etc

[Cameron_Datto]

Not a piss take on the other thread, but seriously: what cars these days do NOT have power steering? or in the past 10 years?

Most of the cars with Electric Power steering ( EPS ) Have there assistance in the upper Steering column , But the Steering Rack it self is just a manual style rack in most models , So just use the Rack with a Standard steering spindal.




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[Nero]

i have one under the house if you want dimensions and pics etc

yep that would be great, plus a small piccy?

[thechuckster]

it might pay to measure rack ratio (steering turns to rack horizontal motion) ... from memory, a camira needs a fair bit of steering input to do stuff (rowdy should know exactly as he runs one as a rally barge).

edit: i have been reminded that tortfeaser has teh camira... my bad.

[rowdytoot]

tortfeaser will know about Camiras- but I think he's got a quickrack from the UK in his...

gemini racks are compact and stuff-but lots of turns lock to lock

I'm not sure why it age matters so much though..

Rowds

[fro]

(rowdy should know exactly as he runs one as a rally barge).

Tortfeaser has teh Rally Camira.
Rowdy has teh Rally Gemini.

[Nero]

Age: has to be from a car that passed ADR's and those ADR's must be current. ICV build you see.

[rowdytoot]

Nero I knew it was ICV-

what about scratch fabricated suspension or brake components- do they have to be ADR approved too??

fro - cheers!...

[Glenno]

[Nero]

Nero I knew it was ICV-

what about scratch fabricated suspension or brake components- do they have to be ADR approved too??

fro - cheers!...

sorry not much time to think ATM. suspension components need to be inspected and calculated. Brake components?...they are all OEM. Not sure what brake components I could fabricate apart from caliper spacers.
I'm simply taking the path of least resistance to smooth the waters with the engineer.
Glenno's ol billy cart steering would be a no go!

[Rollin]

Holden Cruze have a manual rack, with an electric motor up in the column for assistance...IIRC they have a decent amount of lock as well?

[John]

coz rack is not designed for the loads without PS and will likely break. Current PS racks are not as per std rack...or so I have been told.

this is correct. It's more the teeth themselves than the rack actually. All the steering loads in a manual rack are going through the teeth, which this is not the case on a power rack. Therefore, ratios and teeth design, as well as material and heat treatment even are often very different between the two systems.

J