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They don't even have a proper one of those though.. which definitely screws them in the Australian market

Probably time to start a "Subaru gone... " thread :p...

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What would you buy for $50k... new? or new + $x = $n...

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Always seems like ahead of the curve on a new model.. then behind the curve for the next 10 years after as they release the same model.

They're fucked on EV + hybrid, and as a smaller niche manufacturer they are looking shaky. In the US...

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I reckon pretty much this is the case.. just raise the brand and perception. 1000x $5000-10k loss maybe= $5-10M spend to get cars out there on the roads .. cheaper than a fairly simple advertising campaign across multiple media.

Toyota FT86...

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Yeah, I was surprised how shit quality the gen 5 was compared to the 4. Hard plastics and the like. Plus ugly body. I basically bought my GT spec.B at the time because I drove a couple of 3 series and it felt better. They started to drop the ball after...

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For mid 50's I'd probably just buy a type r.. depends what you are going to use it for I guess.

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Yaris now the current front page of the Toyota website.. with the GR4 that you can no longer buy.. well until the Rallyeye comes.

Looks like the model was mainly a PR exercise as the hero, to get people to buy the base models (which is failing...

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There will be some sort of formal yearly check introduced, and big fines for avoidance. . theyll want their money. Since when has Govenment just let people get away with not paying a tax?...

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Once Australia gets slapped a tariff on everything we sell, because we don't have a zero emission target, maybe then they will have to change tact. Even the Chinese might do it for a laugh.

It'll drive some many of them bonkers, but Biden...

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I like it... will be interesting to see what people get out of it with a turbo add-on

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LOL - some per-rendered guesses are pretty much the same as the production vehicle -> https://www.caradvice.com.au/876301/...-sti-rendered/

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It's always way too hard to predict the market in cars, other than simply age and at least being somewhat special. I bought my 32GTR for about 16k, 10 years ago they were a "bucket" (er, it still is, but still a unique thing) on a lazy day...

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Seems an improvement on every level.. with a proper exhaust, may even sound ok..

Some early vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK5A7kOg3m0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjkmcTQVzD0

https://www...

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Toyota knows they have this little market's balls in their hands.. sell some cheap initial base models.. remove them from the market before the end of the year.. sell the Rallyeye for another 6 months at $53-55k or so... then reintroduce the base model...

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^ pretty much this..cheapest car is the one you own.

If you are doing only 100km a month, why do you need a hybrid?...

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I did see one of these nearby the other day and it gave me wood.. Getting parts though, probably not so. Even a R32/R33/R34 GTR many of the important parts are still available....

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Well I'm guessing they gave the interior a 0 weighting then :p It is impressive company though, but what are the main highlights to put it in supercar territory?

Edit: found the review: https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/toyota/gr-yari...

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Among a certain audience ICE cars will stick around, but only the more drivers cars... Eventually the Karen's of this world will all just be driving EVs... especially when more SUV types come along. Nobody will want an ICE Camry or Corolla 5-10 years...

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My MY98 was still going fine at 305,000km or so when I sold it to somebody on here.. I think unless it has had a hard life, the gearbox and headgasket issues are bit overrated.

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Too soon.. you get them hooked THEN you smack a massive excise on it.